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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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my mate has just bought a ver 3sti and i have a ver 2sti so i want to know what is the differance and is his going to be faster the swine
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Amongst other things the V.3 will have a front entry turbo (90 degree on yours) 440cc injectors (380cc on yours) larger TMIC, probably better internals as V.2's are a grey area, some hove forged pistons, some don't. The version 3 comes with the molybdenum coated low-friction pistons (I think!)

Your V.2 Sti is rated at 275bhp, his 280bhp, would be about the same I think in the real world.


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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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so he will have bigger injectors and a larger intercooler that would all help the performance,his ecu can be mapped aswell cant it
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Amongst other things the V.3 will have a front entry turbo (90 degree on yours) 440cc injectors (380cc on yours) larger TMIC, probably better internals as V.2's are a grey area, some hove forged pistons, some don't. The version 3 comes with the molybdenum coated low-friction pistons (I think!)

Your V.2 Sti is rated at 275bhp, his 280bhp, would be about the same I think in the real world.


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so he will have bigger injectors and a larger intercooler that would all help the performance,his ecu can be mapped aswell cant it
No the only remappable are the 1999-2000 cars STi3/4 wernt mappable athough power engineering did get round this with a piggy back device
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Basically, he has a better base car to tune from. For you, tou'd need to upgrade your injectors, fuelling system and TMIC to get over 300bhp safely with an ECU.

He'd just need a fuel pump, fuel pressure reg and the ECU.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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I wouldn't agree with that. My STi Ra ver2 makes 308bhp @ 1 Bar with only a full decat exhaust, induction kit, boost controller.

The ver2 also has the advantage of having a TD05 turbo as std.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
No the only remappable are the 1999-2000 cars STi3/4 wernt mappable athough power engineering did get round this with a piggy back device

thought all scoobs mappable using apexi fc commander...??? been saving up !!! for mine...!
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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I wouldn't agree with that. My STi Ra ver2 makes 308bhp @ 1 Bar with only a full decat exhaust, induction kit, boost controller.

The ver2 also has the advantage of having a TD05 turbo as std.
If you wanted to go above that you'd need to upgrade your injectors and intercooler. A V.3 would already have the capability to go higher just through an ECU.
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i have full decat ex ,kn induction kit,walbro fuel pump,

i have a z4 in my car and it will boost up to about 0.9/1 bar, if i put a electronic boost control on my car will i be able to raise boost just below fuel cut,would it make much differance
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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A V.2 map sensor only reads to 1.2 bar, this means you would only be able to go to around 1.1 bar.

A cheaper way would be to get a Dawes Device and adjust it according to your boost gauge (if you have one).
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i bought a cheap one from ebay and i could not get it to work,i think the spring was to weak,it was not a dawes but a similiar thing, i have not got any knock link or afr meter,would it be ok to fit one and what sort of boost do you think i could go to
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A V.2 map sensor only reads to 1.2 bar, this means you would only be able to go to around 1.1 bar.

A cheaper way would be to get a Dawes Device and adjust it according to your boost gauge (if you have one).
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
No the only remappable are the 1999-2000 cars STi3/4 wernt mappable athough power engineering did get round this with a piggy back device
Actually, Power Engineering won't tough the sti 3/4 with a piggy back chip. I know, because they wouldn't do mine. Something to do with the sti3/4 having a weaker engine! Or could it be that they had one blow up on the rollers once??
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my mate picks his up 2mow,ive not seen it yet but he says that it is standard and only just been imported, so any advice on it would be good
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The STI 3 has a higher revving stronger engine. His will redline at 8,250 rpm as oppossed to yours at 7,500rpm. The reason mapping is difficult on the version 3 is that they only used that chip for around a year and no-one can be bothered doing all the work mapping them, when they will not have much future demand.

Now we are a few months on, how do the 2 compare, does he beat yours?
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he had to spend £1200 pound on his as soon as he bought it
it is bloody quick,
havnt had a race with him yet would be close,but ive got a z4 in mine witch wont boost as much as a proper sti ecu
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Originally Posted by wrxtreme96
thought all scoobs mappable using apexi fc commander...??? been saving up !!! for mine...!
i was referring to standard ecu's aftermarket units like apexi are fully mapable
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just trying to contribute bud... (wrxtreme 96 makes mental note to read post more carefully !!!)
Anyways thought my contribution had been ignored..
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Originally Posted by wrxtreme96
thought all scoobs mappable using apexi fc commander...??? been saving up !!! for mine...!
As said above, Apexi ( and other aftermarket ECUs - Pectel, Autronic, GEMS etc. ) are fully remappable.

1999 IIRC, certainly 2000 on are ECUTek mappable, 1992-1996 ECU's ( std ) can de modified by a Scooby ECU or other Japan / Australia add on chip devices, or some Uk companies like IIRC Scoobyclinic and Powerstation/power engineering can do them too, and 1997 cars are hard to do although again some companies can do those too for a fee...
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