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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Put the car into the gareage last week to have a new clutch timing belt and decat downpipe fitted. Was collected for me on thursday evening no problems. When i went to start it Saturday evening nothing (just a click when you turn the key) but would jump start only with other car running. Took the car for a bit of a drive to try and charge the battery a bit. When i got home tried starting the car again and still nothing.

Got a new battery today. Same thing happened, again it needed the car we were jumping from running. Once started took the car for a drive again. Stopped to talk to a mate and had to hold my foot gently on the throttle to stop the car from stalling as RPM got so low the CEL light flashed as if the car was trying to stall.

Drove for another half hour then brought the car home, parked it in my usual place and left it tickover for a few minutes. Tickover was erratic and often reached as low as 600RPM. Tried to start the car again and still nothing. Any ideas?

Starter celunoid? Alternator? Bad Earth somewhere?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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missing earth?

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use jump leads to earth the engine to the neg battery terminal.. see if it makes things better.

Have you spoke to the garage?

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Just had a quick look can`t spot anything obvious missing. However there does look like there is a new Earth lead on the top of the engine that i had never noticed before, could it be possible that this earth lead isn`t capable of handling enough power?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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haven`t spoken to the garage yet
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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use jump leads to earth the engine to the neg battery terminal.. see if it makes things better.
Have just tried this and still only get a click when you turn the key
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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somethings to tight and car is struggleing to turn engine over , so starter motor got no chance , i would NOT run car till its checked out or you could be doing untold damage.
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is there an earth lead to the start motor?

this is on the back of the engine under the intercooler btw
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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i am thinking timing belt tensioner problem + some how belt is getting tighter
(i hope im wrong)
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Yo Dude,

Give me a ring on 07725329907 i think i can help, worth a try anyway.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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any more helpful suggestions, greatly appreciated.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Have just tried to start the car again using a jump lead connected from the block to the body and it starts- i assume that this means there is an earth fault so, can i just add an extra earth? or do i need to replace one with a cable more capable of taking the power?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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I'd add an extra one.. Halfords do earth straps at a reasonable price.
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just taken it to the garage and the problem was a loose earth connection on the top of the engine under the intercooler. All fixed now. Thanks for all your help
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excellent.. glad it is sorted.
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
is there an earth lead to the start motor?

this is on the back of the engine under the intercooler btw
Originally Posted by tiny gsy
just taken it to the garage and the problem was a loose earth connection on the top of the engine under the intercooler. All fixed now. Thanks for all your help
Are you pyschic Simon? If so give me 6 numbers between 1 and 49
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
Are you pyschic Simon? If so give me 6 numbers between 1 and 49
psycho sometimes.. lol

Was tempted to just post 6 numbers but then i would have to buy a ticket with those numbers then because if they came up I would be gutted.

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