Rolling road
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Rolling road
Goin on the rolling road this Saturday Morning@Powerstation car Sti type r v4
list of mods include:
Hyperflow tmic(with sti8 scoop and splitter)
TDO5 18g turbo
Nismo 550 injectors
Walbro fuel pump
Ngk iridium 8s
Blitz sus(with cold air feed via fog light cover)
Earthing kit
Full decat
PFC Mapped by Pavlo to 1.5bar
Lets see who can get the closest to the right figures?
Bhp ? / Torque?
I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I will post the results Saturday
list of mods include:
Hyperflow tmic(with sti8 scoop and splitter)
TDO5 18g turbo
Nismo 550 injectors
Walbro fuel pump
Ngk iridium 8s
Blitz sus(with cold air feed via fog light cover)
Earthing kit
Full decat
PFC Mapped by Pavlo to 1.5bar
Lets see who can get the closest to the right figures?
Bhp ? / Torque?
I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I will post the results Saturday
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Had the car run at the clinic and was 321bhp powerstaion 326bhp both gave 301 ftlb torque !
Have been to 2 open days at powerstation and have seen quite a few scooby owners with dissapointed results,I would have thought powerstaion rollers were defo not generous ones.
Anyone else ?
Fangoria Why would booster make a big difference if the cars mapped say for optimax 98ron ??
Just curious as ive never bothered with it ..Maybe more gains to be had yet ?
Have been to 2 open days at powerstation and have seen quite a few scooby owners with dissapointed results,I would have thought powerstaion rollers were defo not generous ones.
Anyone else ?
Fangoria Why would booster make a big difference if the cars mapped say for optimax 98ron ??
Just curious as ive never bothered with it ..Maybe more gains to be had yet ?
Originally Posted by DeanF
Well with Powerstation you'll probably be nearer 380 / 350 as they do tend to be more favourable to the customers ears !!!!
Dean
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Last edited by morpheous; 12 October 2005 at 05:20 PM. Reason: Added a question for Fangoria ?
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Originally Posted by Fangoria
Which fuel/booster? as this makes a huge difference
Mapped to Optimax,using no octane boost
Thought it was Power engineering that gave high bhp figuers not Powerstation
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Booster - makes a huge difference
I dint know if you had included this when you mapped the car
I use one full bottle of NF every fill up (costs me about £10 a bottle) but it gives me significant ignition advance and hence power..........
I would expect you to get about
315bhp and about 280lbs..............
I dint know if you had included this when you mapped the car
I use one full bottle of NF every fill up (costs me about £10 a bottle) but it gives me significant ignition advance and hence power..........
I would expect you to get about
315bhp and about 280lbs..............
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I have a similar spec to you but with Guppe S headders.
6 weeks ago the car ran 370 x 320 at Powerstation.
6 months ago the very same car ran 407 x 340 at Well Lane.........
Graham.
6 weeks ago the car ran 370 x 320 at Powerstation.
6 months ago the very same car ran 407 x 340 at Well Lane.........
Graham.
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Originally Posted by Fangoria
Booster - makes a huge difference
I dint know if you had included this when you mapped the car
I use one full bottle of NF every fill up (costs me about £10 a bottle) but it gives me significant ignition advance and hence power..........
I would expect you to get about
315bhp and about 280lbs..............
I dint know if you had included this when you mapped the car
I use one full bottle of NF every fill up (costs me about £10 a bottle) but it gives me significant ignition advance and hence power..........
I would expect you to get about
315bhp and about 280lbs..............
All those mods and hard earned cash for a measley 35bhp from standard
#9
Originally Posted by 911
I have a similar spec to you but with Guppe S headders.
6 weeks ago the car ran 370 x 320 at Powerstation.
6 months ago the very same car ran 407 x 340 at Well Lane.........
Graham.
6 weeks ago the car ran 370 x 320 at Powerstation.
6 months ago the very same car ran 407 x 340 at Well Lane.........
Graham.
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I'd say 350/340 maybe the top mount being the limiting factor.
And if i was you I'd bin the Blitz tea strainer in the interest of engine and turbo longevity.
And if i was you I'd bin the Blitz tea strainer in the interest of engine and turbo longevity.
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I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I dont think you will be disapointed
Pavlo mapped my car around the same time as you. Think me and you did PM each other around the time.
Mine also goes on the dyno Saturday but at scoobyclinic. I shall also post results on here..
Dont think I will be disapointed either after the times it clocked at Santa pod on Sunday, but we will see .
Have a simular spec to you but still using the standard TD05 16g. however mine was mapped to optimax + booster
Maybe you should have had it mapped with booster as some mappers claim upto a 10% increase in power with booster and its only £3 a bottle ( millers )
Andy
I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I dont think you will be disapointed
Pavlo mapped my car around the same time as you. Think me and you did PM each other around the time.
Mine also goes on the dyno Saturday but at scoobyclinic. I shall also post results on here..
Dont think I will be disapointed either after the times it clocked at Santa pod on Sunday, but we will see .
Have a simular spec to you but still using the standard TD05 16g. however mine was mapped to optimax + booster
Maybe you should have had it mapped with booster as some mappers claim upto a 10% increase in power with booster and its only £3 a bottle ( millers )
Andy
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Originally Posted by DeanF
Well with Powerstation you'll probably be nearer 380 / 350 as they do tend to be more favourable to the customers ears !!!!
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and sorry to hi jack ur thread here dude, but im getting my car on RR next saturday too
would like to know of other STi Type R's experiences
mine is 98 V4
-blitz induction
-zero sports ground kit
-full 2.5" turbo back system including scoobyworld downpipe,helix up pipe and equal length headers,
-lightweight flywheel
-Apexi PFC mapped by Andy F running on 100RON fuel @1.35bar im hoping for 310bhp
would like to know of other STi Type R's experiences
mine is 98 V4
-blitz induction
-zero sports ground kit
-full 2.5" turbo back system including scoobyworld downpipe,helix up pipe and equal length headers,
-lightweight flywheel
-Apexi PFC mapped by Andy F running on 100RON fuel @1.35bar im hoping for 310bhp
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Powerstations rollers are not "generous"...
They are Acurate.
Andy
They are Acurate.
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why many others don't use some sort of fan on the TMIC I don't know.
Powerstation could obviously see the benefits of this back in 2002..... (if not earlier, but that pic is no older than 2002 as I didn't own the car before that. )
Andy
Powerstation could obviously see the benefits of this back in 2002..... (if not earlier, but that pic is no older than 2002 as I didn't own the car before that. )
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
why many others don't use some sort of fan on the TMIC I don't know.
Powerstation could obviously see the benefits of this back in 2002..... (if not earlier, but that pic is no older than 2002 as I didn't own the car before that. )
Andy
Powerstation could obviously see the benefits of this back in 2002..... (if not earlier, but that pic is no older than 2002 as I didn't own the car before that. )
Andy
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How different are these rollers to the ones they had at Cheltenham - do they read about the same or are they more favourable?
I think I've posted loads of times that the runs on several occassions on bhp have been very similar to that place in Aylesbury (G Force? is it) on the same day
But hey it made me plough loads of money into the car and I've learnt a fair bit over the years............
and I will put the car on the rollers soon - but only when I know for sure I'll be over 500bhp!!
How different are these rollers to the ones they had at Cheltenham - do they read about the same or are they more favourable?
I think I've posted loads of times that the runs on several occassions on bhp have been very similar to that place in Aylesbury (G Force? is it) on the same day
But hey it made me plough loads of money into the car and I've learnt a fair bit over the years............
and I will put the car on the rollers soon - but only when I know for sure I'll be over 500bhp!!
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Dyno Dynamics Rolling Roads are the way to go To be fair, putting a fan directly above a tmic probably cools it more than it would eveer see on the road and how often do you drive down the road with your bonnet up letting all the underbonnet heat escape? Shut the bonnet and direct air at the intercooler from the front of the car as it would see on the road for a more realistic result.
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Originally Posted by 69WRX
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I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I dont think you will be disapointed
Pavlo mapped my car around the same time as you. Think me and you did PM each other around the time.
Mine also goes on the dyno Saturday but at scoobyclinic. I shall also post results on here..
Dont think I will be disapointed either after the times it clocked at Santa pod on Sunday, but we will see .
Have a simular spec to you but still using the standard TD05 16g. however mine was mapped to optimax + booster
Maybe you should have had it mapped with booster as some mappers claim upto a 10% increase in power with booster and its only £3 a bottle ( millers )
Andy
I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I dont think you will be disapointed
Pavlo mapped my car around the same time as you. Think me and you did PM each other around the time.
Mine also goes on the dyno Saturday but at scoobyclinic. I shall also post results on here..
Dont think I will be disapointed either after the times it clocked at Santa pod on Sunday, but we will see .
Have a simular spec to you but still using the standard TD05 16g. however mine was mapped to optimax + booster
Maybe you should have had it mapped with booster as some mappers claim upto a 10% increase in power with booster and its only £3 a bottle ( millers )
Andy
What times did you get @the pod m8?
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When there are fans made compact enough to fit in the dyno room producing the force you would normally see on the road then we'll shut the bonnet..
Andy
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I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I dont think you will be disapointed
Pavlo mapped my car around the same time as you. Think me and you did PM each other around the time.
Mine also goes on the dyno Saturday but at scoobyclinic. I shall also post results on here..
Dont think I will be disapointed either after the times it clocked at Santa pod on Sunday, but we will see .
Have a simular spec to you but still using the standard TD05 16g. however mine was mapped to optimax + booster
Maybe you should have had it mapped with booster as some mappers claim upto a 10% increase in power with booster and its only £3 a bottle ( millers )
Andy
I was hoping for around 340-350bhp and say 330-340lbft
I dont think you will be disapointed
Pavlo mapped my car around the same time as you. Think me and you did PM each other around the time.
Mine also goes on the dyno Saturday but at scoobyclinic. I shall also post results on here..
Dont think I will be disapointed either after the times it clocked at Santa pod on Sunday, but we will see .
Have a simular spec to you but still using the standard TD05 16g. however mine was mapped to optimax + booster
Maybe you should have had it mapped with booster as some mappers claim upto a 10% increase in power with booster and its only £3 a bottle ( millers )
Andy
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Originally Posted by Juliano
What times did you get @the pod m8?
Good luck to you Saturday also
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Originally Posted by 69WRX
Got a best of 12.50 @ 108mph. This was my first ever time down the strip and im sure with a little practise I could get a 12.0 ish
Good luck to you Saturday also
Good luck to you Saturday also
How did you get on m8?
Mine got 342/266
Bhp was not to bad was hoping for around 350,but the torque figuer was well down Thing is tho so was everybody elses mine and most others over 300bhp were spinning on the rollers,1 guy made 389bhp with 300lbt yet a month ago@another r.road he made 392bhp 370lbt.
Conlution:
Iam certain the torque figuers are wrong,in a few weeks iam going to try and get on a dyno pack at least this way wheels wont be spinning and i will get a more acurate fig.
Has anyone else ever experianced this@Powerstation
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I've got a Type R v3 1997, RR'd with full decat
Apexi Induction
HKS EVC4
it made 310BHP/297Ft/Lb near standard
Ive just got a FMIC, 550's 20g, headers. apfc mapping etc... but its not fitted yet. I hope i get more than 350bhp or thats alot of money for nothing. I'm sure your torque figure is well off, in not sure if a slipping clutch would give a trany loss on the rollers?
Apexi Induction
HKS EVC4
it made 310BHP/297Ft/Lb near standard
Ive just got a FMIC, 550's 20g, headers. apfc mapping etc... but its not fitted yet. I hope i get more than 350bhp or thats alot of money for nothing. I'm sure your torque figure is well off, in not sure if a slipping clutch would give a trany loss on the rollers?
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I've got a Type R v3 1997, RR'd with full decat
Apexi Induction
HKS EVC4
it made 310BHP/297Ft/Lb near standard
Ive just got a FMIC, 550's 20g, headers. apfc mapping etc... but its not fitted yet. I hope i get more than 350bhp or thats alot of money for nothing. I'm sure your torque figure is well off, in not sure if a slipping clutch would give a trany loss on the rollers?
Apexi Induction
HKS EVC4
it made 310BHP/297Ft/Lb near standard
Ive just got a FMIC, 550's 20g, headers. apfc mapping etc... but its not fitted yet. I hope i get more than 350bhp or thats alot of money for nothing. I'm sure your torque figure is well off, in not sure if a slipping clutch would give a trany loss on the rollers?
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Juliano your torque does seem a little low, but if everyones was......
I just got back from Scoobyclinic
Car made 347.7BHP/330Ft/lb
Pleased with that from a TD05 16G 90degree entry.
I just got back from Scoobyclinic
Car made 347.7BHP/330Ft/lb
Pleased with that from a TD05 16G 90degree entry.