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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Juliano
How did you get on m8?

Mine got 342/266

Bhp was not to bad was hoping for around 350,but the torque figuer was well down Thing is tho so was everybody elses mine and most others over 300bhp were spinning on the rollers,1 guy made 389bhp with 300lbt yet a month ago@another r.road he made 392bhp 370lbt.
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Iam certain the torque figuers are wrong,in a few weeks iam going to try and get on a dyno pack at least this way wheels wont be spinning and i will get a more acurate fig.

Has anyone else ever experianced this@Powerstation
Can you post your graph?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 69WRX
Juliano your torque does seem a little low, but if everyones was......
I just got back from Scoobyclinic
Car made 347.7BHP/330Ft/lb
Pleased with that from a TD05 16G 90degree entry.
Nice one! I didn't get a chance to pick up the email till this morning.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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No problem Paul.
You did a cracking job with the mapping. Car has a lovely power curve.
Will post it up shortly
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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This is a photgraph of the Graph, but you should be able to make it out...

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RoRu
Can you post your graph?
Here is the graph:











opinions please?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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did you get a reading of peak boost from the FC Commander?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 69WRX
This is a photgraph of the Graph, but you should be able to make it out...



What gear did Scoobyclinic perform the dyno in?

Mine was in 4th
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
did you get a reading of peak boost from the FC Commander?

Peak boost was 1.51bar knock was 32 which wasnt so bad considering they took it too 7900rpm
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Juliano
Peak boost was 1.51bar knock was 32 which wasnt so bad considering they took it too 7900rpm
Not guilty.

Anyway, what's wrong with revving it to 7900, max power was at 7700.


Andy
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Conrad_Bradley
Dyno Dynamics Rolling Roads are the way to go To be fair, putting a fan directly above a tmic probably cools it more than it would eveer see on the road and how often do you drive down the road with your bonnet up letting all the underbonnet heat escape? Shut the bonnet and direct air at the intercooler from the front of the car as it would see on the road for a more realistic result.
Having extraction at the rear, airflow at the front and airflow on the TMIC (all contained in a cell) will give better comparisons (against the REAL road) than a single fan at the front with the bonnet closed.

Regardless of how much airflow you try to put on the car, nothing is remotely affordable that would allow airflow and temps the same as experienced on the road (and nothing I am aware that Joe Bloggs can use), so I would suggest that any benefit of having the bonnet open with a TMIC cold air feed is hardly going to massage any figures..... only make them more accurate to what they would be on the road (as even that setup would fall short of what is experienced on the road... so how further short would a single direction fan at the front pushing out what a 40-60mph air speed be when the car is achieving speeds of 100mph+ and on the road actually receiving wind speeds and temperatures associated with that speed).

Obviously the TMIC fan is only of benefit to the TMIC guys, but as people will know that have analysed figures..... when on the road, Inlet temps rise less than what they would on a dyno and I have recorded less of an increase (while still not being as low as the road) on a setup with a TMIC fan than of that, that doesnt have one (even greater increase than that of a setup with a TMIC fan, so getting even further away from what real road conditions are like). I know which one gives me a better comparison against road conditions.

You tend to examine these things when you have run your car over 50 times on various rollers over the past 6 months!

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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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I agree with Shaun about the RR cooling, having run my car both at powerstation and Scoobyclinic now, i must say that the 'dyno cell' at powerstation has got to be the closest to real world conditions i have seen so far.
However i still got similar intake temp figures at both venues, both up at 75C at the throttle body .
Never see any more that 45-50C on the road even when thrashing it.

That sort of difference in intake temp to the engine can and will make a noticeable difference to the power it produces.

Dan.
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