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Old 01 January 2005, 02:28 PM
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Default New Avo TMIC fitted....

Finally, my Avo Turbo TMIC arrived a couple of days ago from the land of Oz (cheers to JWRacing). Spent this morning fitting it to my MY 95 UK Saloon. I gotta say that this thing is a beast - weighing approx 3x that of the original. It is also much deeper and has a quality feel. It fits the standard position and the original undertray fits up perfectly ensuring a good seal.

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I haven't had chance to put the car through a good thrashing yet to see what differences the new TMIC has made. To be honest though, anything will be better than the oem model.

I still have a few things left to do over the next few days. Replacing the header tank with a Forge stainless item is top of the list after a ham fisted ECU mapper broke one of the hose fittings. I have been lent a header tank, by said mapper, from a later model scoob but it doesn't fit quite right. I'll send it back as soon as I get the Forge item (cheers Andy F ).

I've also got to relocate the FSE fuel pressure regulator. The geezer I hired to fit it thought it'd be a good idea to attach it to the bulk head directly above the turbo. I have temporarily moved it to the front of the car using the header tank mounting point. When I get a decent length of fuel hose, I'll move it to the washer bottle side of the engine bay somewhere.
Old 01 January 2005, 02:31 PM
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Thats the IC I could do with.
Can you pm how much.

Cheers
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Old 01 January 2005, 02:36 PM
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Thats the IC I could do with.
Can you pm how much.

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Not a cheap option at £550 + VAT but it is a straight swap for the oem item and everything that is needed is included. It also mounts right up against the original undertray so no messing about trying to get a good seal. My STi8 scoop provides plenty of cool air. I have yet to give it enough stick to decide whether or not it is worth the cash.
Old 01 January 2005, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by theotherphil
I still have a few things left to do over the next few days. Replacing the header tank with a Forge stainless item is top of the list after a ham fisted ECU mapper broke one of the hose fittings. I have been lent a header tank, by said mapper, from a later model scoob but it doesn't fit quite right. I'll send it back as soon as I get the Forge item (cheers Andy F ).

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Bloody plastic header tanks, the top hose fitting fell off and I wasn't even anywhere near it In fact I've still got the burns on my arm to prove it !
Lookin good Phil, any pics of the underside of the I/C ?

Andy

ps watch out for it overboosting if the intercooler is much better flowing, it may need a tweek to the initial wastegate duty (I can talk you through this on the phone if req'd)
Old 01 January 2005, 05:15 PM
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LOL

No pics of the underside but it is exactly the same as the top. It still has a single entry to the i/c but it comes with a large metal pipe that connects to the turbo outlet via a 2-3" piece of silicone hose.

I've just got back from a 8 mile thrash through the local country lanes. I must admit, it does pull lots better through the mid range. It seems to peak at 1.3bar and settles down to a rock steady 1.2-1.25bar. The boost now holds solid with no hunting like we encountered during the mapping session. The biggest difference is that the car still feels as quick and responsive even after a sustained thrash whereas on the oem i/c, the responsiveness would tail off the more I kept going. After the run, I stopped in a layby and the new i/c was very cold so it must be handling the job well.

I am still getting a little det at high rpm (6-7K) in third (the CEL flashes, but only briefly). I remember you saying I had reached the max my MAF would read without rescaling (as well as running 90% injector duty); do you think this is the cause and should I be worried about it Andy?

I need to get me a commander before I start tweaking but if I do that, it'll only get me into trouble
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I recon you are in deep trouble anyway, looks like the slippy slope to Modding Oblivion to me
Great looking TMIC!
Glad someone else has been out fixing their cars.....

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Old 01 January 2005, 07:59 PM
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If you are getting the CEL flashing at high rpm then avoid that area for now !
You may well need more fuel added at the top end to compensate for the increased air density/flow through the new intercooler.

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Old 01 January 2005, 08:37 PM
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I need a group buy to bring the cost of those IC`s down.

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Old 01 January 2005, 08:54 PM
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Very nice. Do you have a way of measuring inlet temps at all?

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Old 01 January 2005, 09:06 PM
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Andy F, o you know anyone who could fabricate ic relativly less than £550+vat?

I feel a group buy for someone.

I`ve tried Radtec but they never came back to me despite many calls/emails.

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Old 02 January 2005, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
Very nice. Do you have a way of measuring inlet temps at all?

Tony.
Not yet, but I am planning on getting something rigged up just out of interest.
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My mate made this himself for approx £200 in parts if you know a decent alloy welder ?
It's exactly the full width of the scoop.





Not as pretty as Phils I/C but it certainly does the job !

Andy

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Old 02 January 2005, 09:24 PM
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PMSL another monster intercooler by andy
Old 02 January 2005, 11:43 PM
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Any idea whats best to try to get the parts from?

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Old 02 January 2005, 11:48 PM
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Andy... what make/manufacturer are those IC spray nozzles on the pre97 intercooler. ANd does he still need them

Tony.
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http://www.paceproducts.co.uk for I/C cores, pipes etc.

The nozzles are 90 degree fan coverage, fine mist type specifically designed for high performance turbos.....cough, or rather.............. delicate plants and available from your local garden centre

Thats my old slanty I/C originally from my RA, nozzles to be fitted to my new tmic at some point.

Andy
Old 03 January 2005, 01:35 PM
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LOL.... cheers Andy .

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Old 03 January 2005, 03:56 PM
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looking at the original scoop undertray it looks like some of the air is directed towards the turbo. will fitting a bigger top mount effect this or does'nt it matter.
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