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Old 05 August 2004, 02:57 PM
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Question fuel rails - phase 1/2

Just to confirm ... Phase 1 fuel rail is -98. phase 2 is 99/00 ? (Classics)

I've just been told that scoobyclinic say 98 is phase 2 rail .... ???

Fairly sure its not, as I've just fitted 550s with top and bottom adaptor (Pavlo kit) needed.....

I'm asking 'cos I'm selling some 480s for a 98my and I need to show that they'll fit a phase 1 rail....

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Mark
Old 05 August 2004, 04:12 PM
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Mark

Pre 99 is Phase 1 and phase 2 is 99 & 00 only. The easy way to tell is phase 2 injector connectors are at 90 degrees to the fuel rail and phase 1 are angled at 45 degrees.

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anyone got any pics of both phases?
I have a MY97 uk turbo and when you look at the area where the injectors are is exactly the same as my mates MY99
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So does that mean 97 - 2000 is phase 2 then ?
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Ignore the last post m8. Scoobyclinic have just phoned back,and say that Mark is right- Phase one rails up to 98
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why does my 97 and my mates 00 look identical then?
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Are you sure they are. I think one should be at a 45 degree angle and one at 90
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Yeah i'm sure but pics will help
my mates 97 wrx is the same too
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Not sure about the angle thing.... All the ones I've seen are 45 degree.

Anyhow, as I thought, I was correct in that all cars my98 or older are phase 1 and 99-00my are phase 2...

Not use what the external difference is, but the lower part of the fuel rail (injector housing) is wider on phase 1, so the diameter of the injector is larger.

Here is a link to the diffinitive injector thread - 'PAVLO's info'

Thanks,

Mark
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you do relise the 97-98 cars had a straight intercooler dont you??

there classed as 1.5
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Micky - whilst thats true - I'm not sure it affects the fuel rail.... So I'm saying that I'm not sure theres a visible difference in the fuel rails....

i.e. 1.5 cars have phase 1 fuel rails, my injectors are phase 1, will fit a pre97 and are OK for 'wanted' to buy....

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Mark
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Originally Posted by markwild
Micky - whilst thats true - I'm not sure it affects the fuel rail.... So I'm saying that I'm not sure theres a visible difference in the fuel rails....

i.e. 1.5 cars have phase 1 fuel rails, my injectors are phase 1, will fit a pre97 and are OK for 'wanted' to buy....

Ta,

Mark
tonight we had all 3 cars parked up and had a look at the injectors

i have a 97wrx with yellow 440`s
steve has a 97 uk and wants to fit 440`s but has the standerds on at the moment
other mate has a 00 uk with 440`s

mine and steves are classed as 1.5
ours are the same but the 00 is diffrent

i will agree with what you said re: the fuel rails, it does apear that we have phase one rails, although it would have been nice to see a full blown phase 1 there to double check

steve bought his 440`s as phase 2 injectors
does this mean that they are diffrent from my phase 1.5 440 injectors?

im planning to borrow one from him sumtime and see if it compares with one of mine, he is getting sum conflicting advice regarding what he needs to actualy fit them.
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