fatscoobyfella

Hi guys,
My car is 96 uk spec classic,already upto 280-285 bhp..currently has full decat,K&N and full remap,boost at 15.5 psi..so wanna try and get some more power.Am i now into getting bigger injectors,turbo and fuel pump then remap,lookin to get about 350-380.Are the internals upto this or am i gonna have to do engine work?
Thanks,
Gary

Olly P

Rich Wild has done 350 on standard internals. Checkout his threads for good ideas. Cheers. Olly

teknopete

Yeah, in general it would appear that standard internals are good for 400

Andy.F

Yea, wot Pete said.... and then some more

NM

Very dodgy ground using standard internals for that sort of power and gear box and clutch only good for 330BHP

You will have look at a FMIC for that sort of power though to keep her cool and prevent det.

Cheers

Neal

[Edited by NM - 1/18/2004 12:45:32 AM]

Andy.F

Std clutch is good for 360+lb-ft of torque which can get you well over 400bhp. Std gearboxes seem to let go around 340lb-ft+ with extended abuse, this will get you to 400bhp if your turbo allows your engine to breath well at higher rpm.

Andy

teknopete

NM,

Not at all m8, there`s a few motas doing just that on std internals up here bud. Hell Andy`s was one of the "and more" category.
RE gearbox n clutch ... what Andy said , so don`t believe the hype. It`s the torque and launching that`ll kill the box & clutch.
In order to get the numbers up safely AF mix becomes more important. To oversimplify more power needs more fuel (for both combustion & lubrication) which needs more air (oxygen). So yes an FMIC may assist in the cooling of the charge temerature of available air but it wont make any noticable difference if the restriction is between the air filter and the inlet manifold

Pete

fatscoobyfella

Right ok then..so considering where the car is already at,what would ya recommend?...oh new clutch this week anyway..ap organic!
Ta.
Ps..dont really wanna upgrade box,i realise i could be looking at a compromise.ie.power/gearbox/cash etc..350bhp would probably do it for me!

NM

Have fun mate but play safe as you dont want to spend a load of dosh on something that will go bang in a few months !!!!


My daily runabout a UK MY98 is running 311BHP and 288Lbf atm. Followed this route to get there

VF24 turbo
Uprated fuel regulator and pump
STi 440cc yellow injectors
Full 3" decat
KNi induction kit with heat shield and loads of cold air feed
Standard intercooler with water spray, air splitter, samco hoses and tilted.
AP organic clutch and 5.5kg flywheel
Power Engineering Phase 2 remap to map all the above mods.

Safe reliable power on my daily runabout

Cheers

Neal

fatscoobyfella

Sounds good.Ta neal.What kinda boost does your car run at?Looks like im gonna be spending £1000-£1500 to get that extra 50 or so bhp.Ce la vie,i better start shoppin!!
Cheers,
gary

RICH WILD

Hi,

You don't need a FMIC for 330bhp either.

344 on an uprated top mount 97 UK turbo

Thank you.

Rich

NM

1.3Bar peak


Prices

VF24 turbo (£150 from a mate who was upgrading)
Uprated fuel regulator and pump (£210 Lateral Performance)
STi 440cc yellow injectors (£60)and Pavlo's adaptors (£32)
Full 3" decat (BB £95, centre £free, HKS DP £100 now modded into a twin dump all and 2nd hand)
KNi induction kit (£45) with heat shield and loads of cold air feed (£free)
Standard intercooler with water spray (£20 for nozzles), air splitter (£free), samco hoses (£60)and tilted (£free).
AP organic clutch and 5.5kg flywheel (£750)
Power Engineering Phase 2 remap to map all the above mods (£560).


All free stuff is items that I have fabricated, most items were bought 2nd hand from 4sale section on SN. Clutch purchased because the old one was knackered otherwise I wouldnt of purchased it.

Cheers

Neal

[Edited by NM - 1/19/2004 11:13:03 PM]

Jake

UK MY00
TD05
FMIC
Pump + Reg
Link
Std Gearbox and Clutch

Got to be making 340ish and clutch and gearbox still going strong.