pmortlock

holy crap really!? i will do mine and keep fingers crossed tomorrow. i heard the cam position sensor can go at the same time if thats any use siwrx maybe unplug that one and try and start it? i might need some of that petrol soon! Why not ring Diagnostic Techniques 07971 300481 who are mentioned in the article within Car Mechanics re Subaru electronic diagnostics

[Edited by pmortlock - 4/1/2003 11:38:13 PM]

scoobydad

Just got into scoob and it will not start, think it might be the immobiliser,but not sure.any ideas ?

Thanks in advance

scoobydad

Any suggestions ?

Scratch

iTrader: (1)

More description might help.

Not start = Turning over? with/without coughing, or totally dead ? If totally dead does the dash light up, and clicking noises when you turn the key ? Do you hear the fuel pump pressurise the fuel system ?

The list of questions could be fairly endless so I will stop there ......

scoobydad

scratch i can clicking noises when trying to turn over. checked battery 12 volts showing.

Brun

The clicking sounds like the starter motor. Get someone to turn the key while you check if power is coming to the starter motor. If it is, i assume it's knacked, if not - you could be right about the immobiliser.
I had very similar symtons on my old Pug, it turned out to be a dodgy wire to the starter.
Keep us posted.

Brun

I've just re-read your last post.
Does the car actually turn over and click, or is there just click and no turn?

Jolly Green Monster 2

Check the volts at the battery when you turn it over..
Jump it off another car with jump leads..

I'd out my money on there not being enough power in the battery..

Most likely the battery is dead / dying..

Or could be the alternator but they seem fairly good on the Scoob and rarely die.

JGM

Colin P

Mine had a simular problem recently, it would start fine some days but others it would just click. I checked everything and changed the starter motor in the end which cured it.

If this is you problem get one from a breakers as I did for about £35 as Subaru what something like £350 for a new one.

Col

Bottomfeeder

Similar experience recently, engine turned over but would not start...turned out that when the car was moved earlier in the day we had flooded it (moved it 3 feet)the battery was an amp shy of charged and so the blady thing would not start....try getting a jump start.

Jo Peters

I had a similar thing last year with my MY95 WRX. Turned out to be the petrol pump. Fitted a new (used) one from a breaker and it has been fine ever since.

Jo

M0rf

Sounds to me like the starter motor, i would get some one to turn the key while u give it a knock, as if the starter is sticking then this should release it and start the car, if so then u no what u need to replace.

Rich

Scratch

iTrader: (1)

I assume that it's clicking and not turning over then it could be either the starter motor, or the starter solenoid (experience with other cars) I assume the scoob has one?

Fizz

iTrader: (1)

Immobiliser problem?

pmortlock

mines not starting. just got back from holiday and it doesnt go.
i turn on ignition, check engine light and battery light come on.
is this normal or is it indicating a problem? thanks

when its turning over i get a loud clicking noise from the front right dash area, bit like an old cars indicators noise!

Jolly Green Monster 2

Pmortlock,

THat wuill be battery flat..

Jump it with leads off another car

JGM

pmortlock

really? the engines turning over quite quickly it occasionally coughs a tiny bit. Can you confirm this is still a battery problem and if its normal for the check engine light to come on with the ignition is on, thank you very much

siwrx

sounds exactly the same as what im just trying to sort at the moment mate. Engine turns over and splutters every now and again but wont fire.

Checked coilpacks, ecu test etc on mine, all good. Fuel pump primes etc

so at the mo my 2 ideas are crank sensor and temp sensor as they both control spark and wouldnt let the ****er start if they were naffed

pmortlock

do you get the weird clicking from the dash, sounds like a relay or something

Jolly Green Monster 2

pmortlock,

Sorry mate I thought you meant all you got is a click.. and engine not turning over..

Click from dash might just be a normal relay click.. just you are looking for things...

Have you tried the check engine light history?

Connect the green connectors under the dash and turn on the ignition (don;t start engine) do you get anything other than a steady flash roughly 1 per second?

Decode the error code here

JGM

pmortlock

JGM2 thanks for that, thats about all i have not tried. I'll give it a go tomorrow. siwrx how're you getting on? have you tried this?

siwrx

no ecu error codes coming up on mine....

so gotta be a ****ed sensor that it aint showing. Now correct me if im wrong but can only be crank or temp sensor or itd start just run ****, so im gonna change them both and see

pmortlock

me too, thanks and good luck

Jolly Green Monster 2

Try Grade A Subaru for secondhand parts..

JGM

pmortlock

they've got the crank sensor for 25+vat, thanks jgm2 and co

Jolly Green Monster 2

No worries... hope you sort it.

Siwrx,

Any luck with yours?

JGM

pmortlock

Did you get your sensor through yet siwrx? Im ordering mine today

pmortlock

mine should be here tomorrow, can someone give me a link to a pic showing the locaton please? ta very much

siwrx

crank sensor is right under the alternator, basically ull see a single 10 mm bolt next to a sensor under it going into cam cover. Just undo this, its a small magnetic cylinder with a wire on it....


Mines still ****ed proper confused

Checked fuel pressure, injector pulse etc all good,
checked coilpack, spark plugs etc getting spark
changed crank sensor, throttle postition sensor, inlet air control solenoid
tried starting without maf plugged in

No ecu error codes

What next lol, or am i at the can of petrol and insurance job stage looool

pmortlock

ok im depressed. just swapped the CPS and still doesnt start.
battery is almost dead as well now.
swrx i tried ringing the number above but got no answer.
what will we do? i have no idea, my car is stuck in my garden.
if anyone can help, please do. nightmare!