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If you could add ONE performance/handling modification to an otherwise standard MY97 Catalunya, what would be it be?
I'm very interested to see which bit gets the most votes...
Filter?
Exhaust?
ECU?
Brakes?
Suspension?
Something else?
If you have a preferred make of one of them, let me know that too.
Any response much appreciated...
Dan
(I don't care about appearance mods - don't have any spare cash for anything with no effect on driving experience)
I'm very interested to see which bit gets the most votes...
Filter?
Exhaust?
ECU?
Brakes?
Suspension?
Something else?
If you have a preferred make of one of them, let me know that too.
Any response much appreciated...
Dan
(I don't care about appearance mods - don't have any spare cash for anything with no effect on driving experience)
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4 pot brakes or a decat zorst (at least a nice back box for the noise, if nothing else )
If you drive alot at night a set of cibie or piaa driving lamps would be well worth considering. (they aren't purely cosmetic...)
If you drive alot at night a set of cibie or piaa driving lamps would be well worth considering. (they aren't purely cosmetic...)
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Cheers everyone, (and "Hi Rich!")
I'm surprised that so many people went for brakes! I know they're not great, but I was expecting somebody to say "chip the engine" or something...
I've no idea whether the Cat has 4 pot brakes... will investigate.
I reckon the voting goes something like this:
Filter 1
Exhaust 2
ECU 0
Brakes 2
Suspension 1
Something else ?
Thank you all; that gives me summat to think about, and also leads me to ask :
"What was your 'upgrade path' from standard car to beasty?"
[Edited by Dodge - 10/23/2002 6:45:56 PM]
I'm surprised that so many people went for brakes! I know they're not great, but I was expecting somebody to say "chip the engine" or something...
I've no idea whether the Cat has 4 pot brakes... will investigate.
I reckon the voting goes something like this:
Filter 1
Exhaust 2
ECU 0
Brakes 2
Suspension 1
Something else ?
Thank you all; that gives me summat to think about, and also leads me to ask :
"What was your 'upgrade path' from standard car to beasty?"
[Edited by Dodge - 10/23/2002 6:45:56 PM]
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Rich A. tried to sell me his exhaust off the ol' ambulance, once, but that was a bit TOO much! [smile] Although, I could have lived in it's cavernous expanse to save on rent...
I would like an exhaust that has a fairly polite burble at ambling-thru-town speeds, but makes that fantastic BAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRPPP! noise when you 'press on'... I think it would need to have some performance improvement, too, rather than just being louder...
What do you think is a good, medium loud, performance exhaust, and what sort of improvement would it bring?
As for the slightly less aurally exciting but more popular recommendation, which 4 pots would you recommend? How effective are they? Is it a matter of shorter stopping distances, or better feel, less fade etc...
Sorry to drag the thread on, but I don't like starting something expensive without some research, first!
Cheers, y'all!
I would like an exhaust that has a fairly polite burble at ambling-thru-town speeds, but makes that fantastic BAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRPPP! noise when you 'press on'... I think it would need to have some performance improvement, too, rather than just being louder...
What do you think is a good, medium loud, performance exhaust, and what sort of improvement would it bring?
As for the slightly less aurally exciting but more popular recommendation, which 4 pots would you recommend? How effective are they? Is it a matter of shorter stopping distances, or better feel, less fade etc...
Sorry to drag the thread on, but I don't like starting something expensive without some research, first!
Cheers, y'all!
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Sorry to drag the thread on, but I don't like starting something expensive without some research, first!
I'm slowly getting my car sorted out, and my route was brakes, suspension (in progress) exhaust (next, assuming the insurance is OK...)
I found the OEM 4 pots to fade less, slow me down faster and generally feel better. My 2 pot discs were getting worn though.
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hello,
Which number is your Cat, mine is 63!
Catalunyas don't have 4 pots, I'm just about to change mine to 4 pots. So hopefully I will soon be able to stop! :P
If I were you, I'd get an exhaust first! Something big and loud!
Here's a pic of mine, (any excuse!)
Cheers,
Crawf
[Edited by crawf8 - 10/24/2002 1:35:43 PM]
Which number is your Cat, mine is 63!
Catalunyas don't have 4 pots, I'm just about to change mine to 4 pots. So hopefully I will soon be able to stop! :P
If I were you, I'd get an exhaust first! Something big and loud!
Here's a pic of mine, (any excuse!)
Cheers,
Crawf
[Edited by crawf8 - 10/24/2002 1:35:43 PM]
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Personnally I would always go for brakes first, even pads can make a hell of a difference.
Then suspension, then start with the go faster bit's.
It would be dead frustrating if you had a car that whipped every other scoob off the lights but had to break earlier than a standard UK MY99 (STI 4 pot brakes - standard) and couldn't go round corners as well as a standard UK MY99 (STI Suspension - Standard)
You get the point - extra horses are well and good but more fun if you can actually stop and go round corners as well to match - ain't that the point of scoobs??
Then suspension, then start with the go faster bit's.
It would be dead frustrating if you had a car that whipped every other scoob off the lights but had to break earlier than a standard UK MY99 (STI 4 pot brakes - standard) and couldn't go round corners as well as a standard UK MY99 (STI Suspension - Standard)
You get the point - extra horses are well and good but more fun if you can actually stop and go round corners as well to match - ain't that the point of scoobs??
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Crumbs, I always thought the standard car, even a MY97, was pretty well sorted, but I do take the points about handling and stopping what you've started...
It sounds dauntingly expensive to get a truly sorted car out at the end:
£1500 brakes
£1200 suspension
£350 exhaust
£40 filter
£1400 Link ECU
...
I start to wonder whether I have a suitably sound base car to start on; it's getting quite old and is developing some character, (i.e broken bits: squeaky rear brakes for instance, juddery clutch, whistling turbos)
It's not a path to go down unless you're going to keep the car for a LONG time...
And btw, it's Cat no. 171, but I dont have a good piccy.
It sounds dauntingly expensive to get a truly sorted car out at the end:
£1500 brakes
£1200 suspension
£350 exhaust
£40 filter
£1400 Link ECU
...
I start to wonder whether I have a suitably sound base car to start on; it's getting quite old and is developing some character, (i.e broken bits: squeaky rear brakes for instance, juddery clutch, whistling turbos)
It's not a path to go down unless you're going to keep the car for a LONG time...
And btw, it's Cat no. 171, but I dont have a good piccy.
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Here is mine (No. 18)
I did a few cosmetic things, then went for the exhaust
I'm after a 3 peice front splitter at the moment.
BTW, i'd probably ditch the 15" wheels for a set of 17"s first, I've never driven one on 15"s but I'm told the difference is fantastic
Brakes aren't the best on the Cat, it only has the original two pots. You can upgrade to Subaru 4 pots that were fitted to the MY98 onwards (or is that MY99??) you can pick some up inc. disks for about £250 - £300 but you will need at least 16" wheels for them to fit
I've never really had any probs with the handling, although mine is on 17"s.... Depends what you're used to i guess
I did a few cosmetic things, then went for the exhaust
I'm after a 3 peice front splitter at the moment.
BTW, i'd probably ditch the 15" wheels for a set of 17"s first, I've never driven one on 15"s but I'm told the difference is fantastic
Brakes aren't the best on the Cat, it only has the original two pots. You can upgrade to Subaru 4 pots that were fitted to the MY98 onwards (or is that MY99??) you can pick some up inc. disks for about £250 - £300 but you will need at least 16" wheels for them to fit
I've never really had any probs with the handling, although mine is on 17"s.... Depends what you're used to i guess
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