Notices

Boost Gauge Install help please!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21 January 2015, 07:23 PM
  #1  
STI8Dave
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
STI8Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Winchester
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Boost Gauge Install help please!

Hi Guys, I am looking to install a boost gauge on the pillar of my 2003 sti but I'm not sure where to wire it up.
Are there any diagrams or anyone that can explain in a bit of detail (I'm a bit of an electrical dumbass) on how to do it?
Thanks, Dave.
Old 21 January 2015, 08:28 PM
  #2  
14500rpm
Scooby Newbie
 
14500rpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I can't really advise beyond this, but I removed a boost gague that was in one of the centre vents from my 2003 wagon and the lighting for the gauge was tapped from the clock:



Can't say if this the best way to run it, but it appeared to work ok for as long as it took me to drive back from collecting the car
Old 21 January 2015, 08:35 PM
  #3  
STI8Dave
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
STI8Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Winchester
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That's probably one of the easiest places to run it from. I'll take a look, thanks
Old 21 January 2015, 08:56 PM
  #4  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Do it right though...the above is a right pig's ear.

The wiring on Scoobs uses the modern thinwall stuff, so the tap-in connectors need to be red, not blue.
Or better still, remove insulation, wrap wire round, solder and heatshrink.
Old 21 January 2015, 08:58 PM
  #5  
piehole1983
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
piehole1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Belfast
Posts: 2,999
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by alcazar
Do it right though...the above is a right pig's ear. The wiring on Scoobs uses the modern thinwall stuff, so the tap-in connectors need to be red, not blue. Or better still, remove insulation, wrap wire round, solder and heatshrink.
Solder is the way forward. Those scotchlock things should be banned.
Old 21 January 2015, 09:11 PM
  #6  
matthewn
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
matthewn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 284
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

as above only way is to solder, if unsure use a meter to find switch pos,
Old 21 January 2015, 09:42 PM
  #7  
STI8Dave
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
STI8Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Winchester
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Oh crap, this is gonna be harder than I thought lol
Anybody local to Winchester, Hampshire that can assist?
Old 21 January 2015, 09:43 PM
  #8  
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
boosted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: harlow
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

You will need a live and an earth for the lighting and a pipe to the inlet manifold for the boost pressure.
Live as described above.
Earth anywhere on the chassis
Old 21 January 2015, 09:43 PM
  #9  
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
boosted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: harlow
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
Oh crap, this is gonna be harder than I thought lol
Anybody local to Winchester, Hampshire that can assist?
Two wires and a pipe?
Old 21 January 2015, 09:44 PM
  #10  
piehole1983
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
piehole1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Belfast
Posts: 2,999
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
Oh crap, this is gonna be harder than I thought lol Anybody local to Winchester, Hampshire that can assist?
Shouldn't take you more than half an hour dude, it's easy if you've got the basic tools to do it.
Old 21 January 2015, 09:46 PM
  #11  
STI8Dave
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
STI8Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Winchester
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm pretty sure the gauge I have has more than 2 wires out the back. I will check tomorrow as its at the back of the shed.
Old 21 January 2015, 09:52 PM
  #12  
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
boosted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: harlow
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
I'm pretty sure the gauge I have has more than 2 wires out the back. I will check tomorrow as its at the back of the shed.
Do you not have a wiring diagram?
Likely have daylight running and nighttime dimming, not needing to wire it up like that, just have it in nighttime dimming all the time.
Old 21 January 2015, 10:21 PM
  #13  
STI8Dave
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
STI8Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Winchester
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up!
So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?
Old 21 January 2015, 10:39 PM
  #14  
piehole1983
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
piehole1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Belfast
Posts: 2,999
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up! So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?
I picked up connections for my boost gauge at the instrument cluster. But, I have a lot of electronic test equipment to identify stuff, appropriate tools and also experience with soldering. Have you got anything like a simple multimeter and a soldering iron?
Old 21 January 2015, 10:47 PM
  #15  
south_scoob
Scooby Regular
 
south_scoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: england
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up!
So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?
Wire it to the clock. Drop a peice of string down aswell as the boost gause wires. Then tie them togethher and pull the boost gause wires up. Then tap the live wire into the ignition wire for the clock (not constant live) the earth to the earth and the third one i wouldnt worry about.
Old 21 January 2015, 10:53 PM
  #16  
south_scoob
Scooby Regular
 
south_scoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: england
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The ignition you need to attach your live from the boost gauge is the yellow wire at the bottom of the clock harness.

The earth is the black wire two above it (seccond from top)

If you want to wire in the third dimmer wire its the pink wire above the ignition hope that helps
Old 22 January 2015, 09:45 AM
  #17  
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
boosted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: harlow
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Keep the smoke in the wires
Old 22 January 2015, 09:52 AM
  #18  
stevemoir
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (24)
 
stevemoir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

On the back of the clock on new ages right beside the clip it will tell you what wire is what

If your going to install a single gauge are you fitting it onto the a pillar or steering cowl?

Steve
Old 22 January 2015, 10:21 AM
  #19  
14500rpm
Scooby Newbie
 
14500rpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by south_scoob
Wire it to the clock. Drop a peice of string down aswell as the boost gause wires. Then tie them togethher and pull the boost gause wires up. Then tap the live wire into the ignition wire for the clock (not constant live) the earth to the earth and the third one i wouldnt worry about.
Is one of the wires to the clock a constant live, if so which one? I guessed one of them might be (to keep the time) but haven't so far investigated properly as its far too cold outside
Old 22 January 2015, 10:46 AM
  #20  
Fletch84
Scooby Regular
 
Fletch84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Co Durham
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm glad this thread was started because I've just ordered one today so I'm fully tuned in on this. Haha
Old 22 January 2015, 11:29 AM
  #21  
XDevil666
Scooby Regular
 
XDevil666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: leeds
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Simple for a boost gauge:


Behind the clock you will find this:




from top to bottom


BATTERY
GROUND
LIGHTS ON
IGNITION




Old 22 January 2015, 11:34 AM
  #22  
XDevil666
Scooby Regular
 
XDevil666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: leeds
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up!
So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?
It will come with a manual which tells you which wire to connect to which feed, use my picture above and it will be a walk in the park
Old 22 January 2015, 01:10 PM
  #23  
Fletch84
Scooby Regular
 
Fletch84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Co Durham
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by XDevil666
Simple for a boost gauge:


Behind the clock you will find this:




from top to bottom


BATTERY
GROUND
LIGHTS ON
IGNITION




Thanks very much mate, any idea the diameter of the wires so I know what size heat shrink tubes to buy.
Old 22 January 2015, 01:33 PM
  #24  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

One of these is useful if you don't have a meter: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-LIGHT-...item418dafabb7
It can be used to find a live, both permanent and switched.

As for soldering, so long as the wires to be joined are clean, it's simple.
here's a foolproof method:

Strip back an area of the wire to be joined to, about 10mm is fine. I do it using a Stanley type knife, shave along gently.
Now strip back about 15mm of the wire you want to join to it.
Twist the new wire round the one to be tapped into, making a neat join.
Now cut off about 10mm of solder wire and wrap that round the join.
Place soldering iron under the join in contact with solder. You will see it melt, wait until it flows., remove soldering iron and keep joint still until solder goes hard, (moving it too early is the main cause of "dry-soldered" joints which give poor results).

You can't really heatshrink it, unless your wire to be joined into has a free end. Best stuff to use is self-sealing tape, otherwise some electrician's tape is fine.
Old 22 January 2015, 04:24 PM
  #25  
south_scoob
Scooby Regular
 
south_scoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: england
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Or you can poke a hole threw the wire your tapping into.
Twist the wire from the boost gauge into a thin line then poke it therew the hole.

Then close the loop you made then twist the wire around.

Tape over it and imo is as strong as soldering this age old method
Old 22 January 2015, 06:17 PM
  #26  
STI8Dave
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
STI8Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Winchester
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wow, thanks guys, you have been a massive help. I think i'm gonna do it this weekend weather permitting. Would you say that the pipe by the dump valve or the inlet manifold would be the best place to attach the pipe to the gauge?
Old 22 January 2015, 06:57 PM
  #27  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by south_scoob
Or you can poke a hole threw the wire your tapping into.
Twist the wire from the boost gauge into a thin line then poke it therew the hole.

Then close the loop you made then twist the wire around.

Tape over it and imo is as strong as soldering this age old method
It'll work, but it's a poor man's connection. Mechanical only.

Always bear in mind that a poor connection results in high resistance, and that high resistance results in heat, and that heat can result in destroyed electrics or fire
Old 22 January 2015, 07:12 PM
  #28  
south_scoob
Scooby Regular
 
south_scoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: england
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
Wow, thanks guys, you have been a massive help. I think i'm gonna do it this weekend weather permitting. Would you say that the pipe by the dump valve or the inlet manifold would be the best place to attach the pipe to the gauge?
Inlet, better reading and no cutting, just unplug the orange round disc get a small piece of tube conect to t peice and orange disc. These two go either side of the t piece.

Then the long peice of vacume hose goes from the bottom of your t.peice threw the fire wall and up the pillar!

No problem. There realy aint a good soild guide anyware online. Why you would cut into the vacume for the dumpvalve on the wrong side of the engine bay i dont know
Old 22 January 2015, 07:22 PM
  #29  
STI8Dave
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
STI8Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Winchester
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Cool, thanks again, you've been a massive help
Old 28 January 2015, 06:51 AM
  #30  
Fletch84
Scooby Regular
 
Fletch84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Co Durham
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STI8Dave
Cool, thanks again, you've been a massive help
Dave did you manage to install it? I'm doing mine this weekend.


Quick Reply: Boost Gauge Install help please!



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:25 AM.