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STI8Dave 21 January 2015 07:23 PM

Boost Gauge Install help please!
 
Hi Guys, I am looking to install a boost gauge on the pillar of my 2003 sti but I'm not sure where to wire it up.
Are there any diagrams or anyone that can explain in a bit of detail (I'm a bit of an electrical dumbass) on how to do it?
Thanks, Dave.

14500rpm 21 January 2015 08:28 PM

I can't really advise beyond this, but I removed a boost gague that was in one of the centre vents from my 2003 wagon and the lighting for the gauge was tapped from the clock:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...psa5d9e591.jpg

Can't say if this the best way to run it, but it appeared to work ok for as long as it took me to drive back from collecting the car :)

STI8Dave 21 January 2015 08:35 PM

That's probably one of the easiest places to run it from. I'll take a look, thanks :)

alcazar 21 January 2015 08:56 PM

Do it right though...the above is a right pig's ear.

The wiring on Scoobs uses the modern thinwall stuff, so the tap-in connectors need to be red, not blue.
Or better still, remove insulation, wrap wire round, solder and heatshrink.

piehole1983 21 January 2015 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11609049)
Do it right though...the above is a right pig's ear. The wiring on Scoobs uses the modern thinwall stuff, so the tap-in connectors need to be red, not blue. Or better still, remove insulation, wrap wire round, solder and heatshrink.

Solder is the way forward. Those scotchlock things should be banned.

matthewn 21 January 2015 09:11 PM

as above only way is to solder, if unsure use a meter to find switch pos,

STI8Dave 21 January 2015 09:42 PM

Oh crap, this is gonna be harder than I thought lol
Anybody local to Winchester, Hampshire that can assist?

boosted 21 January 2015 09:43 PM

You will need a live and an earth for the lighting and a pipe to the inlet manifold for the boost pressure.
Live as described above.
Earth anywhere on the chassis

boosted 21 January 2015 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609114)
Oh crap, this is gonna be harder than I thought lol
Anybody local to Winchester, Hampshire that can assist?

Two wires and a pipe?

piehole1983 21 January 2015 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609114)
Oh crap, this is gonna be harder than I thought lol Anybody local to Winchester, Hampshire that can assist?

Shouldn't take you more than half an hour dude, it's easy if you've got the basic tools to do it.

STI8Dave 21 January 2015 09:46 PM

I'm pretty sure the gauge I have has more than 2 wires out the back. I will check tomorrow as its at the back of the shed.

boosted 21 January 2015 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609125)
I'm pretty sure the gauge I have has more than 2 wires out the back. I will check tomorrow as its at the back of the shed.

Do you not have a wiring diagram?
Likely have daylight running and nighttime dimming, not needing to wire it up like that, just have it in nighttime dimming all the time.

STI8Dave 21 January 2015 10:21 PM

There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up!
So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?

piehole1983 21 January 2015 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609179)
There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up! So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?

I picked up connections for my boost gauge at the instrument cluster. But, I have a lot of electronic test equipment to identify stuff, appropriate tools and also experience with soldering. Have you got anything like a simple multimeter and a soldering iron?

south_scoob 21 January 2015 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609179)
There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up!
So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?

Wire it to the clock. Drop a peice of string down aswell as the boost gause wires. Then tie them togethher and pull the boost gause wires up. Then tap the live wire into the ignition wire for the clock (not constant live) the earth to the earth and the third one i wouldnt worry about.

south_scoob 21 January 2015 10:53 PM

The ignition you need to attach your live from the boost gauge is the yellow wire at the bottom of the clock harness.

The earth is the black wire two above it (seccond from top)

If you want to wire in the third dimmer wire its the pink wire above the ignition hope that helps

boosted 22 January 2015 09:45 AM

Keep the smoke in the wires

stevemoir 22 January 2015 09:52 AM

On the back of the clock on new ages right beside the clip it will tell you what wire is what

If your going to install a single gauge are you fitting it onto the a pillar or steering cowl?

Steve

14500rpm 22 January 2015 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by south_scoob (Post 11609203)
Wire it to the clock. Drop a peice of string down aswell as the boost gause wires. Then tie them togethher and pull the boost gause wires up. Then tap the live wire into the ignition wire for the clock (not constant live) the earth to the earth and the third one i wouldnt worry about.

Is one of the wires to the clock a constant live, if so which one? I guessed one of them might be (to keep the time) but haven't so far investigated properly as its far too cold outside :lol1:

Fletch84 22 January 2015 10:46 AM

I'm glad this thread was started because I've just ordered one today so I'm fully tuned in on this. Haha :wonder:

XDevil666 22 January 2015 11:29 AM

Simple for a boost gauge:


Behind the clock you will find this:




from top to bottom


BATTERY
GROUND
LIGHTS ON
IGNITION




http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3595/dscf1574pe3.jpg

XDevil666 22 January 2015 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609179)
There is a diagram of sorts but not all that clear to a noob like me, hence why I'm a little concerned about hashing it up!
So Boosted, would you recommend running wires to the clock or is there somewhere closer to the drivers pillar that would be better?

It will come with a manual which tells you which wire to connect to which feed, use my picture above and it will be a walk in the park :)

Fletch84 22 January 2015 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by XDevil666 (Post 11609451)
Simple for a boost gauge:


Behind the clock you will find this:




from top to bottom


BATTERY
GROUND
LIGHTS ON
IGNITION




http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3595/dscf1574pe3.jpg

Thanks very much mate, any idea the diameter of the wires so I know what size heat shrink tubes to buy.

alcazar 22 January 2015 01:33 PM

One of these is useful if you don't have a meter: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-LIGHT-...item418dafabb7
It can be used to find a live, both permanent and switched.

As for soldering, so long as the wires to be joined are clean, it's simple.
here's a foolproof method:

Strip back an area of the wire to be joined to, about 10mm is fine. I do it using a Stanley type knife, shave along gently.
Now strip back about 15mm of the wire you want to join to it.
Twist the new wire round the one to be tapped into, making a neat join.
Now cut off about 10mm of solder wire and wrap that round the join.
Place soldering iron under the join in contact with solder. You will see it melt, wait until it flows., remove soldering iron and keep joint still until solder goes hard, (moving it too early is the main cause of "dry-soldered" joints which give poor results).

You can't really heatshrink it, unless your wire to be joined into has a free end. Best stuff to use is self-sealing tape, otherwise some electrician's tape is fine.

south_scoob 22 January 2015 04:24 PM

Or you can poke a hole threw the wire your tapping into.
Twist the wire from the boost gauge into a thin line then poke it therew the hole.

Then close the loop you made then twist the wire around.

Tape over it and imo is as strong as soldering this age old method

STI8Dave 22 January 2015 06:17 PM

Wow, thanks guys, you have been a massive help. I think i'm gonna do it this weekend weather permitting. Would you say that the pipe by the dump valve or the inlet manifold would be the best place to attach the pipe to the gauge?

alcazar 22 January 2015 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by south_scoob (Post 11609606)
Or you can poke a hole threw the wire your tapping into.
Twist the wire from the boost gauge into a thin line then poke it therew the hole.

Then close the loop you made then twist the wire around.

Tape over it and imo is as strong as soldering this age old method

It'll work, but it's a poor man's connection. Mechanical only.

Always bear in mind that a poor connection results in high resistance, and that high resistance results in heat, and that heat can result in destroyed electrics or fire:(

south_scoob 22 January 2015 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609685)
Wow, thanks guys, you have been a massive help. I think i'm gonna do it this weekend weather permitting. Would you say that the pipe by the dump valve or the inlet manifold would be the best place to attach the pipe to the gauge?

Inlet, better reading and no cutting, just unplug the orange round disc get a small piece of tube conect to t peice and orange disc. These two go either side of the t piece.

Then the long peice of vacume hose goes from the bottom of your t.peice threw the fire wall and up the pillar!

No problem. There realy aint a good soild guide anyware online. Why you would cut into the vacume for the dumpvalve on the wrong side of the engine bay i dont know

STI8Dave 22 January 2015 07:22 PM

Cool, thanks again, you've been a massive help :)

Fletch84 28 January 2015 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by STI8Dave (Post 11609763)
Cool, thanks again, you've been a massive help :)

Dave did you manage to install it? I'm doing mine this weekend.


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