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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 09:56 AM
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Has anyone had this as I've never heard of it happening before , basically my v2 was mapped the other day and couldn't really get anywhere with it as as soon as it hits high boost it lifts the valves open and blows the spark out etc etc , ment to be comon on the v1/2 engines ? Ment to be due to the hydraulic lifters not holding the valves down enough :-(

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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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Yes common on v1/2. Its the valve springs not strong enough to shut the valves.

Engines are 20+ years old now.

The engines need refreshing to be 100%. New bearings, gaskets, piston rings, valve springs and valves relapped.
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 10:32 AM
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I've just never heard of it before mine just wondered if anyone els had the issue , that's one of the things we said it's a 20 year old engine so not done bad really , just trying to find a v3 that's not knocking or had it's heads removed is proving difficult .
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Timing problem?
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 11:17 AM
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Nope the valve springs are weak/worn
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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No mate it was mapped with Simon and he saw it on the data , upto 1 ish bar it's spot on after that it's to much and misfires as the fuel is going out the open valves . I just wanted to know if people have come across this too .
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Crikey, thought i had problems, never heard of this before, unlucky i guess. 1 bar it is for you then and no more lol :-)
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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Nah mate taking the v2 engine out and trying to get a sti engine with solid lifters then I can go full boost which should be 1.6 bar I think or in that region :-)

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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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The hydraulic lifters tend to 'pump up' at sustained higher rpm and hold the valves open.
If you can find a pair of STi V2 RA or STi V3~4 heads in good condition, it will solve your issue.

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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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In an ideal world yea mate but the there's that many beif token or about to be broken I'm going to wait till a forged 2.0 with the right heads pops up or get a standard v3 and forge it myself .
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Ive seen this on a car, it my case it was old mini colis, the boost just blew the srark out, new coil packs and it was fixed.
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It was not just the coils.

I map these cars daily. This car has valve bounce at high rpm.

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Yea it's deffo blowing the spark out I'm fitting new age coils to it this weekend see if that helps , the engines being changed anyway as it wont take the power I want for long tbh
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
It was not just the coils.

I map these cars daily. This car has valve bounce at high rpm.
I wasn't doubting this, just saying that the coil packs get old as well.
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