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Old 09 May 2014, 08:59 AM
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Got a classic UK facelift Turbo, 1999 .

Would like to fit a stronger gearbox , possibly a six speed.

Looks like a uk sti 6 speed would be a straight fit? and work with my rear diff?

Can anyone confirm exactly which gearbox i would need and any other mods needed to fit

Looking to keep the engine and everything else 100% std would just like to fix what I see as the weak link on my aging classic.
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If it aint broke, dont fix it
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Cheers for the link, will have a good read later when I finish work

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If it aint broke, dont fix it
It sounds a little noisy so I want to get the parts together and be ready for when I have problem. Planning on keeping this car long term and want to improve it as I go
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If you arent going to go over 350hp with it, there is no need for a 6sp, you might aswell just drop another 5sp in there

I would also note, that the bug eye boxes are the weakest boxes of the 6sps, they do not have carbon snychros in them, so allow for them to be changed.

6 speeds arent as strong as everyone makes out, plenty have broken. mine included

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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
If you arent going to go over 350hp with it, there is no need for a 6sp, you might aswell just drop another 5sp in there

I would also note, that the bug eye boxes are the weakest boxes of the 6sps, they do not have carbon snychros in them, so allow for them to be changed.

6 speeds arent as strong as everyone makes out, plenty have broken. mine included
I wont be upping the power at all. Shes my daily driver and I just want her to be as reliable as possible. I do like to do some B road blasting and the odd launch so I thought strengthening the drive train would be a good idea.

Will the six speed give better fuel ecnomy on the motorway , is the sixth gear taller than the 5 speeds fifth?
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My 6speed from a bug is very short ratios, its 75mph in 6th is like 3 and a bit k rpm IIRC.

Its alot of expense and you are going to get no benefit from the expense of fitting a 6 speed over replacing or repairing your 5 speed.

If it does increase fuel economy it wont be anything worth noting. A 5 speed is perfectly adequate for standard power and you can repair you 5speed probably 5 times for the cost of the 6 speed conversion alone.

Let alone the cost of fitting (£500+VAT is the going rate)

And you are fitting an unknown 2nd hand 6 speed, so allow for a rebuild anyway of up to 1k....

If you get a DCCD box you will need a programmer to make it work too.

For what you want, stick with the 5 speed and repair it, or possibly rpelace it with a hawkeye 5 speed if you can find one at a decent price.
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
My 6speed from a bug is very short ratios, its 75mph in 6th is like 3 and a bit k rpm IIRC.

Its alot of expense and you are going to get no benefit from the expense of fitting a 6 speed over replacing or repairing your 5 speed.

If it does increase fuel economy it wont be anything worth noting. A 5 speed is perfectly adequate for standard power and you can repair you 5speed probably 5 times for the cost of the 6 speed conversion alone.

Let alone the cost of fitting (£500+VAT is the going rate)

And you are fitting an unknown 2nd hand 6 speed, so allow for a rebuild anyway of up to 1k....

If you get a DCCD box you will need a programmer to make it work too.

For what you want, stick with the 5 speed and repair it, or possibly rpelace it with a hawkeye 5 speed if you can find one at a decent price.
Thanks some good advice there. Does sound like maybe its alot of effort for not alot of gain in my situation.

Is the hawkeye 5 speed a straight fit into mine then?
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Originally Posted by SunilWRX
Thanks some good advice there. Does sound like maybe its alot of effort for not alot of gain in my situation.

Is the hawkeye 5 speed a straight fit into mine then?
I honestly dont know mate, it isnt something I have ever done, I broke a 6speed so the 5 speed wouldnt stand a chance on my car lol
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Is a straight swap to a later 5 speed. The later 5 speeds are "meant" to be stronger but i have never seen the gear sets next to each other.
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