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Old 05 March 2008, 12:01 PM
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I Think the belt that drives the air conditioning compressor on MY2003 STi is slipping, i get a really loud squeeling noise when i start the car up, which dissapears when i gently rev the engine. It also happened on the way home last night, but knocking the car out of gear then again gently reving the engine made it stop.





Is it ok to take the belt off and see if the noise is present without it in place .

Also is replacing it as simple as just reataching a new one or does the tensioner have to be slackened off to get it over the pulleys
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I Think the belt that drives the air conditioning compressor on MY2003 STi is slipping, i get a really loud squeeling noise when i start the car up, which dissapears when i gently rev the engine. It also happened on the way home last night, but knocking the car out of gear then again gently reving the engine made it stop.





Is it ok to take the belt off and see if the noise is present without it in place .

Also is replacing it as simple as just reataching a new one or does the tensioner have to be slackened off to get it over the pulleys
If I remember correctly the Air con belt runs behind the PS belt, so you'd need to removed that one to get the air con belt off....

Might just be worth checking the tension, belts stretch, so just tighten it a little and see if it stops
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It could be either the alternator/power steering belt or the air con belt. They both have adjusters & if you fit new belts they will need slackening off just enough to get the belts over the pulleys & snug in the grooves. Then adjusting back up to the right tension.

It's a simple 5 minute job to adjust both belts using just basic spanners/sockets. And only takes a bit longer if you want to change the belts.

These pictures are from when I fitted my light weight pulleys but they show both tensioners & the two belts and the adjusters.

Remove this cover then it's all easy to get to.


Front belt is Power steering/alternator & rear one is air con both feed off crank pulley bottom right.


Crank pulley in centre (ignore the 22mm socket bit) The Air con belt adjuster is to the right of it & the air con clutch pulley is in top right corner.


This shows how to alter the alternator belt tension. (ignore the rest bar on ledge bit)


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Cheers mark

Pretty sure it's the Air con belt as it seems a lot looser than the other belt.

Bit of a numpty question but looking at the third picture down, i know which bit is the adjuster i just don't know which bolts to loosen off or even tighten to re tension the belt, the top two bolts seem to attach to the block so it's gotta be either the bottom bolt or summin to do with the threaded nut running to the left hand side

I await instruction
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Just been thinking. The other night as i left work and it made the sqeeling noise the steering went very heavy so maybe it is the PowerSteering belt after all
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Cheers mark

Pretty sure it's the Air con belt as it seems a lot looser than the other belt.

Bit of a numpty question but looking at the third picture down, i know which bit is the adjuster i just don't know which bolts to loosen off or even tighten to re tension the belt, the top two bolts seem to attach to the block so it's gotta be either the bottom bolt or summin to do with the threaded nut running to the left hand side

I await instruction
Third pic down
Loosen the botton bolt that the pulley in on, otherwise when you turn the tensioner bolt it'll snap the plastic adjuster at the bottom that the pulley is seated on...

Been there, done that
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Just been thinking. The other night as i left work and it made the sqeeling noise the steering went very heavy so maybe it is the PowerSteering belt after all
It's that time of year, gets damp under the bonnet with condensation, gets on the pulleys and belts and makes them slip a bit when first started...

Tighten them very slightly

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Power steering fliud low?
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My first thought as well Frayz but it's at the top of the cold fill level
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Third pic down
Loosen the botton bolt that the pulley in on, otherwise when you turn the tensioner bolt it'll snap the plastic adjuster at the bottom that the pulley is seated on...

Been there, done that
Thanks Mark
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Just a worn or loose belt then fella.


Wont be a problem
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Originally Posted by B0DSKI
Pretty sure it's the Air con belt as it seems a lot looser than the other belt.
It's thinner & has a longer run between pulleys than the other one. So can appear to be looser.


Originally Posted by B0DSKI
so maybe it is the PowerSteering belt after all
If it's the PowerSteering belt then just use the bottom picture.

Only undo the two 12mm bolts on the alternator mounts just enough to let it move as you wind the adjuster bolt round. Otherwise it goes all floppy & when you tighten them later it will alter the ammount of tension that you thought you had.

Once it's all tightened up recheck that the tension is still how you want it.

It wouldn't hurt to pull the belt right off & check it for wear/scorching/shiny patches etc on it's inside edge. Depending how much squealing it's been doing it may be a bit stressed.

Bit like how the belt gets in a hoover when the brush gets jammed & stops turning & the motor isn't switched off straight away.

Mark

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Originally Posted by FLAT ERIC
It's thinner & has a longer run between pulleys than the other one. So can appear to be looser.




If it's the PowerSteering belt then just use the bottom picture.

Only undo the two 12mm bolts on the alternator mounts just enough to let it move as you wind the adjuster bolt round. Otherwise it goes all floppy & when you tighten them later it will alter the ammount of tension that you thought you had.

Once it's all tightened up recheck that the tension is still how you want it.

It wouldn't hurt to pull the belt right off & check it for wear/scorching/shiny patches etc on it's inside edge. Depending how much squealing it's been doing it may be a bit stressed.

Bit like how the belt gets in a hoover when the brush gets jammed & stops turning & the motor isn't switched off straight away.

Mark
U should of said washing machine pulley and belt Mark i'd of understood then

Thanks M8
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Originally Posted by B0DSKI
U should of said washing machine pulley and belt Mark i'd of understood then

Thanks M8
Ah but I have a Miele.

And they don't do that.

So i'm told.

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so have i now m8 and mine dont either lol
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If you want a hand I am about this weekend or next week as i'm on holiday. Apart from Monday morning when i'm at Xtreme for a cam belt service.

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Originally Posted by FLAT ERIC


If you want a hand I am about this weekend or next week as i'm on holiday. Apart from Monday morning when i'm at Xtreme for a cam belt service.

Mark
Thanks Mark i appreciate that I'll give u a shout if i need your expert touch
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