A bit technical, but a good tool.
03 December 2006, 10:39 PM
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A bit technical, but a good tool.
Not really a group buy, but i'm going to be ordering one of these within the week.
OBDPros
Basically it is a tool which you can plug into your OBD port (on board diagnostics, notmally situated under steering wheel), and can see exactly what the ECU is doing. ie you can view exact engine temp, oil pressure, oil temp, MAF etc etc etc, basically most electonic sensor readouts from the car. Plus these allow you to reset ECU error codes or see what the code relates to.
This will NOT allow you to reflash your ECU though, it is just a monitoring tool.
As the dollar rate is so good at the moment, it works out about £60 ($120) inc P&P, an excellent price IMO. Last time i was quote to reset my ECU light, that was £50 alone for a one off. Thankfully it was an error code which reset itself.
There is plenty of software available for these tools, here is one such software product OBD II Scan Tool Software and Hardware - ProScan Details. Some of them are free also.
So if you have a laptop and Impreza, worth while tool.
Anyone else interested as i'll see if i can get them cheaper if there is a few of us ?
EDIT - About OBD2 Compliance
So do these tools work with any UK/European cars before 2001?
Yes they do, but certainly not across the board, and very rarely back as far as 1996. A few manufacturers have some OBDII/EOBD support (on petrol models) before 2001 are listed below:
OBDPros
Basically it is a tool which you can plug into your OBD port (on board diagnostics, notmally situated under steering wheel), and can see exactly what the ECU is doing. ie you can view exact engine temp, oil pressure, oil temp, MAF etc etc etc, basically most electonic sensor readouts from the car. Plus these allow you to reset ECU error codes or see what the code relates to.
This will NOT allow you to reflash your ECU though, it is just a monitoring tool.
As the dollar rate is so good at the moment, it works out about £60 ($120) inc P&P, an excellent price IMO. Last time i was quote to reset my ECU light, that was £50 alone for a one off. Thankfully it was an error code which reset itself.
There is plenty of software available for these tools, here is one such software product OBD II Scan Tool Software and Hardware - ProScan Details. Some of them are free also.
So if you have a laptop and Impreza, worth while tool.
Anyone else interested as i'll see if i can get them cheaper if there is a few of us ?
EDIT - About OBD2 Compliance
In 1996 in the United States, a Federal Law came into force requiring all US-sold cars to be OBDII compliant. Most OBDII tools are therefore advertised as working with all cars from 1996.
The OBDII Federal Law applied only to cars sold in the US.
In the UK and the rest of Europe, our equivalent law (European On-Board Diagnostics, or EOBD) did not come into force, and more importantly, was not fully implemented by our car manufacturers, until 2001 for petrol cars (2003/4 for diesels).
Where an OBDII tool is sold in the UK/Europe claiming to work on all cars from 1996, this is highly unlikely to be the case.
Even where a seemingly identical car may have been sold in Europe and the US before 2001, from testing and research, it is rarely the case that the European model will be OBDII/EOBD compliant.
So do these tools work with any UK/European cars before 2001?
Yes they do, but certainly not across the board, and very rarely back as far as 1996. A few manufacturers have some OBDII/EOBD support (on petrol models) before 2001 are listed below:
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- Ford (most petrol cars using the EEC-V engine management system)
- Jaguar (most models from the beginning of the X300 series)
- Volvo (some models)
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- Vauxhall
- Peugeot
- Citroen
- Fiat
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Can't go far wrong with that, that's a good find Tissy. 
Helluva lot cheaper than a SECS monitor but not as pretty.
Mark
Helluva lot cheaper than a SECS monitor but not as pretty.
Mark
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OK, all i need is definates and will see if i can get them cheaper, good thing is that they will be no more than £60 each i guess.
Cornelius & Flat Eric are you interested?
Cornelius & Flat Eric are you interested?
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That's a pretty good price, I paid £50 ish for my USB - OBDII cable and use it with EcuExplorer from Tari Racing on my laptop fantastic free software which, if you're feeling brave, comes with ECU Flash for reflashing the ECU!
If you're interested in that route instead try TARI Racing Software Forum - Index
OBDII-USB cable - tactrix
Cheers, Andy
If you're interested in that route instead try TARI Racing Software Forum - Index
OBDII-USB cable - tactrix
Cheers, Andy
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Originally Posted by Fishuk
i dont have one of these ports do i 
04 December 2006, 04:32 PM
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early classics don't have the OBD port
was going to buy a SECS unit as Flat Eric already mentioned, but unless you're willing to splice into the wiring loom to fit it, it's a no go.
Tissy, would be interested, but haven't got spare cash at the moment, having a real 'mare of a time at the mo
was going to buy a SECS unit as Flat Eric already mentioned, but unless you're willing to splice into the wiring loom to fit it, it's a no go.Tissy, would be interested, but haven't got spare cash at the moment, having a real 'mare of a time at the mo
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Originally Posted by Tissy
OK, all i need is definates and will see if i can get them cheaper, good thing is that they will be no more than £60 each i guess.
Cornelius & Flat Eric are you interested?
Cornelius & Flat Eric are you interested?
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Discounted Price available.
OK, have an update on pricing for these.
If i order 5, i can get a 15% discount.
Based on the $99.99 (USB) normal priced model after discount is $84.99.
Postage & Packing for the 5 is going to be no more than $40 based on weight.
So, based on these prices each unit will cost at todays exchange rate, approximately £47.10 . Quite a saving over the initial £60 if you bought a single one. They come with full leads etc. There is a serial version available which is $84.99 before discount.
They come with all leads and a CD of software. I have read a few threads where this company have posted and their techinical support is very good and always reply to emails.
So come on, who 'definately' wants one so i can place an order.
If you have questions about what these can do, please let me know or visit their web site.
If i order 5, i can get a 15% discount.
Based on the $99.99 (USB) normal priced model after discount is $84.99.
Postage & Packing for the 5 is going to be no more than $40 based on weight.
So, based on these prices each unit will cost at todays exchange rate, approximately £47.10
. Quite a saving over the initial £60 if you bought a single one. They come with full leads etc. There is a serial version available which is $84.99 before discount.They come with all leads and a CD of software. I have read a few threads where this company have posted and their techinical support is very good and always reply to emails.
So come on, who 'definately' wants one so i can place an order.
If you have questions about what these can do, please let me know or visit their web site.
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Have a look at digimoto.com cost about £50 imported from states and has live time loging , fault clearing / reading . on road dyno function / 0 to 60 timings / 1/4 mile etc . found it well worth it 
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Scuba-Doo - I have looked at Digimoto in the past and have heard bad things about them. No delivery, long waits, poor technical support, no frequent software updates etc etc. Also their USB package is $170. Do you have the link you are refering to for the hardware product you have bought, or are you just refering to the software which is $50?
EDIT - It was my mistake, its actually another company that have a bad reputation, not Digimoto.
EDIT - It was my mistake, its actually another company that have a bad reputation, not Digimoto.
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Originally Posted by Tissy
Scuba-Doo - I have looked at Digimoto in the past and have heard bad things about them. No delivery, long waits, poor technical support, no frequent software updates etc etc. Also their USB package is $170. Do you have the link you are refering to for the hardware product you have bought, or are you just refering to the software which is $50?
But must say I've not had any problems as such , only on doing a road dyno run and then had live tech help and was answered straight away and sorted out .
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OK, lets start a list and i will sort out payment with you once the list is complete and the order placed.
- Tissy
- Cornelius - USB
- Dazza
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OK, lets start a list and i will sort out payment with you once the list is complete and the order placed. Come on guys, may get it before Christmas then !!
- Tissy
- Cornelius - USB
- Dazza
Come on guys, may get it before Christmas then !!
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Not a member of the ESC but my best mate lives in Hornchurch so I'd like to think of myself as a half member
I'll take one of these please
One question though, if they all get shipped over together, won't we get stung for the import duty etc?
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I'll take one of these please
One question though, if they all get shipped over together, won't we get stung for the import duty etc?
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mmm, not sure mate ? Depends what they mark the value at i guess.
He's shipped quite a few to the UK, so i will find out.
I've added you to the list anyway.
Just one more space left, get in quick people !!
He's shipped quite a few to the UK, so i will find out.
I've added you to the list anyway.
- Tissy - USB
- Cornelius - USB
- Dazza
- Neanderthal
Just one more space left, get in quick people !!
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As i said before, always get a quick response from them, what do you think guys?
Originally Posted by OBDPros
Hi Steve, Single units shipped to the UK did not have any issues, some folks had requested I list the pricing on the package as $ 25 or less. For a package of 5 units I would like to be able to list the actual value for insurance purposes, typically I have found that most countries do not impose import duty for value under $ 1000.00.
I would suggest you check with your local post office/customs office for the rates to confirm.
Thanks
Paul
I would suggest you check with your local post office/customs office for the rates to confirm.
Thanks
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- Tissy - USB
- Cornelius - USB
- Dazza - USB
- Neanderthal - USB
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I sent an email to the supplier asking how much individual posting would be, that way we may be able to avoid import tax due to the value of each individual item sent.
Cut a long story side ways, individual posting would be $22, compared to the $40 for 5. So in effect this pushes each item up to £54.06.
The item are going to be sent USPS (United States Postal Service) which ever option we choose, which having read up on the internet is less likely to incur import duties than UPS and FedEx.
So the choice is yours people. We can have them posted individually or together. Either way, if import taxes are charged, of course these will be passed on.
Your views ???
Cut a long story side ways, individual posting would be $22, compared to the $40 for 5. So in effect this pushes each item up to £54.06.
The item are going to be sent USPS (United States Postal Service) which ever option we choose, which having read up on the internet is less likely to incur import duties than UPS and FedEx.
So the choice is yours people. We can have them posted individually or together. Either way, if import taxes are charged, of course these will be passed on.
Your views ???