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Old 26 November 2013, 12:50 PM
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I've checked my ESU found its the 8S


Do i need an ESL daughter board, or can my ECU be remapped as it is?

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Old 26 November 2013, 04:06 PM
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It can't be mapped as is, it does need an ESL board.
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So if i buy and ESL daughter board, install into my ECU, i can remap my engine using software off you for £75?
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I have ESL for my 8S. To get the software/cable for £75 you need to buy the board at the same time as a package. And it's £75 plus VAT for the software/cable when bought with the board so it's really £90.
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Did you map yours yourself? And if so how easy is it to do?
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ESL is definitely the way to go especially for what it offers for the price. however dont make the mistake of buying this one second hand for more than the original new price. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-ESL...item20dbc52f35
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Did you map yours yourself? And if so how easy is it to do?
I'm still mapping it, it's certainly a learning as you go job. My mapping was held up by a lot of mechanical issues with the boost control system.

You will also need to have a wideband AFR sensor and EGT sensor installed to monitor any changes you make. The ESL software can log everything else like boost pressure, waste gate duty cycle etc again which you will need to log and review to make sure everything is safe.

The best thing to do is read the ESL manual. Once you've finished, read it twice more to make sure you understand what everything does and how it works.

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/Manual.pdf

If you aren't comfortable with installing/understanding/using the above I'd advise you to go to a mapper and have it installed and set up.
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Originally Posted by my94wrx
ESL is definitely the way to go especially for what it offers for the price. however dont make the mistake of buying this one second hand for more than the original new price. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-ESL...item20dbc52f35
Yes, that seller is a bit optimistic, charging slightly more than a new one. That is their choice of course, but saying that as it has already been mapped it only needs a tweak for £100 isn't true, any mapper will start afresh on it if it has been transferred to a different car.

Another con here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-wrx...item3a8807ce31

This is not a live mappable board, despite the sellers claims. The v1.0 is a generic chip.

We do sell through ebay now, the official ones are sold through esl_performance and we have a new website with a shop imminent.
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
I'm still mapping it, it's certainly a learning as you go job. My mapping was held up by a lot of mechanical issues with the boost control system.

You will also need to have a wideband AFR sensor and EGT sensor installed to monitor any changes you make. The ESL software can log everything else like boost pressure, waste gate duty cycle etc again which you will need to log and review to make sure everything is safe.

The best thing to do is read the ESL manual. Once you've finished, read it twice more to make sure you understand what everything does and how it works.

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/Manual.pdf

If you aren't comfortable with installing/understanding/using the above I'd advise you to go to a mapper and have it installed and set up.
100% agree with Piehole. You will need to read the manual anyway to use it, so if it doesn't make sense, go to a mapper. You have the advantage of starting from the OEM map, so I usually advise baby steps to start with and save your changes so you can roll back to an earlier map if necessary.
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Ha ha i've just been reading though, and i must admit its not making much sense, will keep reading though though as i'm getting bits of what its saying.

Is there anyway of wirring up a switch to switch between maps instead of turning car off?
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I'm sure I've seen on here that a few mappers supply and fit ESL for £600 all in? Unless you really want to understand it there seems little point doing it yourself as your only saving £150 odd plus it looks like you'll then need to buy other sensors as well.
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Originally Posted by 328isport
I'm sure I've seen on here that a few mappers supply and fit ESL for £600 all in? Unless you really want to understand it there seems little point doing it yourself as your only saving £150 odd plus it looks like you'll then need to buy other sensors as well.
I invested a little in sensors and tuning equipment, not to mention a HUGE amount of time learning and reading.

Getting a pro would be my advise! I would if I could!
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