Can the Type R drift properly?
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Can the Type R drift properly?
I have a 97 Sti typr R with mild mods, my tyres are 205/55/16, if i try to drift the car with the diff open (green oval on dash), it either seems to kinda bounce round the corners on the rear or if it does spin out it goes 360 before u have time to counter the steering.
My thoughts are that I have Cusco coil overs and a very hard setting with poor rebound?
the profile on the tyres is 55, so the moveable side wall would prevent a slide
Or my car is too under powerd to break traction or i aint doing it right lol
P.s my drifting method is to try and shift the balance of the car and then over power on the throttle mainly on roundabouts in 2nd or 3rd. I dont slip the clutch or use brakes.
My thoughts are that I have Cusco coil overs and a very hard setting with poor rebound?
the profile on the tyres is 55, so the moveable side wall would prevent a slide
Or my car is too under powerd to break traction or i aint doing it right lol
P.s my drifting method is to try and shift the balance of the car and then over power on the throttle mainly on roundabouts in 2nd or 3rd. I dont slip the clutch or use brakes.
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It certainly can
I did most of the testing / practice for the world record in my type r.
your technique doesn't sound a million miles off, so it may well be your set-up.
Generally stiff set-ups offer poor feedback and razor sharp limits which makes it difficult to drive the car on the limit without overdoing it.
Try a much softer setting, and see how you go. The 55 profile is fine.
Another thing to consider is trail braking to smoothly get the car sideways rather than having to be aggressive with it.
If you're aggressive in your style, the car will react aggressively, but if you're smooth, it will react smoothly.
I would however recommend only trying any of this in a safe environment as it can all go horribly wrong, horribly quickly
All the best
Simon
I did most of the testing / practice for the world record in my type r.
your technique doesn't sound a million miles off, so it may well be your set-up.
Generally stiff set-ups offer poor feedback and razor sharp limits which makes it difficult to drive the car on the limit without overdoing it.
Try a much softer setting, and see how you go. The 55 profile is fine.
Another thing to consider is trail braking to smoothly get the car sideways rather than having to be aggressive with it.
If you're aggressive in your style, the car will react aggressively, but if you're smooth, it will react smoothly.
I would however recommend only trying any of this in a safe environment as it can all go horribly wrong, horribly quickly
All the best
Simon
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Thats interesting, ive often thought it must be the set up, people say the type r is a handfull sometimes, but I find the grip excellent. The only time's where I have a brown pants moment is on bumps in the middle of bends, it upsets the back end and goes for it lol.
I'll look into my set up a bit more thanks.
I'll look into my set up a bit more thanks.
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ive got a type RA ver 2 which is easy to drift. on tarmac usualy. i find that its adifferent tecnique to a rwd car but not by alot and it does take practice. i found that i move the steering side to side sharply because it doesnt always grip and just does a 4wheel burn out. once its going in a circle and the front wheels are pointing left if ur going left and as the back goes round you can steer out as far as you want to drift.it shocked me that i could do it but its great fun.
best place to practice is in a car park. i always did it in 1st gear as its easiest. 2 nd is poss but after practice
best place to practice is in a car park. i always did it in 1st gear as its easiest. 2 nd is poss but after practice
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Originally Posted by C 8HEP
ive got a type RA ver 2 which is easy to drift. on tarmac usualy. i find that its adifferent tecnique to a rwd car but not by alot and it does take practice. i found that i move the steering side to side sharply because it doesnt always grip and just does a 4wheel burn out. once its going in a circle and the front wheels are pointing left if ur going left and as the back goes round you can steer out as far as you want to drift.it shocked me that i could do it but its great fun.
best place to practice is in a car park. i always did it in 1st gear as its easiest. 2 nd is poss but after practice
best place to practice is in a car park. i always did it in 1st gear as its easiest. 2 nd is poss but after practice
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With the diff all the way open it's cetainlly a fine balancing point. Had mine drifting out of most of the corners at a recent trackday but coming out of the hairpin, and getting a bit cocky by this stage, it bit me big time. There's not a lot of warning and when it goes wrong it does it very fast.
I had my gearbox rebuilt a few weeks ago and had it done by a specalist rally garage. I told the mechanic (himself a rally driver with mucho talent) to take the car out and cane it to make sure it had fixed the problem and when he came back he said it was THE most oversteery and unforgiving car he'd ever driven.
I had my gearbox rebuilt a few weeks ago and had it done by a specalist rally garage. I told the mechanic (himself a rally driver with mucho talent) to take the car out and cane it to make sure it had fixed the problem and when he came back he said it was THE most oversteery and unforgiving car he'd ever driven.
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Originally Posted by C 8HEP
i would love a type R but all this oversteer i keep hearing about really puts me off. il stick with the 4door RA
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What is it about empty car park activities that seem to attract boguns? I saw an empty car park the other dau so in I went, after only about 5 mins, i stopped and went to leave and there were a few cars there watching, I thought maybe they were going to park, but they all left when I did.
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Thats interesting, ive often thought it must be the set up, people say the type r is a handfull sometimes, but I find the grip excellent. The only time's where I have a brown pants moment is on bumps in the middle of bends, it upsets the back end and goes for it lol.
I'll look into my set up a bit more thanks.
I'll look into my set up a bit more thanks.
I have just found this out very recently scarryyyyyyyy indeed
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avoid roads with sizeable bumps
only had my V4 type r a few weeks
had an evo V before but this is more of a drivers car and i prefer it
the evo was almost crashproof these things will bite you if you let them
i cant wait to get an empty greasy car park let the drifting begin
although i have been using the diff lock a lot i would love to master the art of the drift
avoid roads with sizeable bumps
only had my V4 type r a few weeks
had an evo V before but this is more of a drivers car and i prefer it
the evo was almost crashproof these things will bite you if you let them
i cant wait to get an empty greasy car park let the drifting begin
although i have been using the diff lock a lot i would love to master the art of the drift
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Originally Posted by tath
i think, after much deliberation, that this thread should be edited from "Can the Type-R drift properly?" to "Can any Type-R drivers drift properly?"...
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See the 2nd video down in here ..........
http://www.shand-online.co.uk/
Tail out whilst making progress after farting about with the diff biasing
Cal
http://www.shand-online.co.uk/
Tail out whilst making progress after farting about with the diff biasing
Cal
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Originally Posted by washer
try 120 behind a bike like i did last night on a bend the bast**d hit his brakes and i went sideways no probs there and it was wet
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