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Old 13 June 2005, 08:11 PM
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Default Can the Type R drift properly?

I have a 97 Sti typr R with mild mods, my tyres are 205/55/16, if i try to drift the car with the diff open (green oval on dash), it either seems to kinda bounce round the corners on the rear or if it does spin out it goes 360 before u have time to counter the steering.

My thoughts are that I have Cusco coil overs and a very hard setting with poor rebound?

the profile on the tyres is 55, so the moveable side wall would prevent a slide

Or my car is too under powerd to break traction or i aint doing it right lol

P.s my drifting method is to try and shift the balance of the car and then over power on the throttle mainly on roundabouts in 2nd or 3rd. I dont slip the clutch or use brakes.
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It certainly can

I did most of the testing / practice for the world record in my type r.

your technique doesn't sound a million miles off, so it may well be your set-up.

Generally stiff set-ups offer poor feedback and razor sharp limits which makes it difficult to drive the car on the limit without overdoing it.

Try a much softer setting, and see how you go. The 55 profile is fine.

Another thing to consider is trail braking to smoothly get the car sideways rather than having to be aggressive with it.

If you're aggressive in your style, the car will react aggressively, but if you're smooth, it will react smoothly.

I would however recommend only trying any of this in a safe environment as it can all go horribly wrong, horribly quickly

All the best

Simon
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Thats interesting, ive often thought it must be the set up, people say the type r is a handfull sometimes, but I find the grip excellent. The only time's where I have a brown pants moment is on bumps in the middle of bends, it upsets the back end and goes for it lol.

I'll look into my set up a bit more thanks.
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ive got a type RA ver 2 which is easy to drift. on tarmac usualy. i find that its adifferent tecnique to a rwd car but not by alot and it does take practice. i found that i move the steering side to side sharply because it doesnt always grip and just does a 4wheel burn out. once its going in a circle and the front wheels are pointing left if ur going left and as the back goes round you can steer out as far as you want to drift.it shocked me that i could do it but its great fun.

best place to practice is in a car park. i always did it in 1st gear as its easiest. 2 nd is poss but after practice
Old 21 June 2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by C 8HEP
ive got a type RA ver 2 which is easy to drift. on tarmac usualy. i find that its adifferent tecnique to a rwd car but not by alot and it does take practice. i found that i move the steering side to side sharply because it doesnt always grip and just does a 4wheel burn out. once its going in a circle and the front wheels are pointing left if ur going left and as the back goes round you can steer out as far as you want to drift.it shocked me that i could do it but its great fun.

best place to practice is in a car park. i always did it in 1st gear as its easiest. 2 nd is poss but after practice
that's just a great big homer j. donut...

mmm... donuts.
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i tried it on grass great fun and its quite nice to the car, not too much pressure
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yea, its easy on grass or a dusty track, but concrete, is another matter. maybe my near standard type r is not powerfull enugh
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any big carparks near you? preferably without trees/bollards/lampposts etc... try it in the wet - watch out for PC Dibble tho
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I can do the dohnut easy enuf but hold it sideways ....NO
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practice practice practice...
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Default oooo st*t

try 120 behind a bike like i did last night on a bend the bast**d hit his brakes and i went sideways no probs there and it was wet
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i think, after much deliberation, that this thread should be edited from "Can the Type-R drift properly?" to "Can any Type-R drivers drift properly?"...
Old 08 July 2005, 08:05 PM
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Thats a good piont lol
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With the diff all the way open it's cetainlly a fine balancing point. Had mine drifting out of most of the corners at a recent trackday but coming out of the hairpin, and getting a bit cocky by this stage, it bit me big time. There's not a lot of warning and when it goes wrong it does it very fast.

I had my gearbox rebuilt a few weeks ago and had it done by a specalist rally garage. I told the mechanic (himself a rally driver with mucho talent) to take the car out and cane it to make sure it had fixed the problem and when he came back he said it was THE most oversteery and unforgiving car he'd ever driven.
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I agree with the fact that they come around fast if u give em too much right foot lol
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i would love a type R but all this oversteer i keep hearing about really puts me off. il stick with the 4door RA
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Originally Posted by C 8HEP
i would love a type R but all this oversteer i keep hearing about really puts me off. il stick with the 4door RA
as in an sti RA or a wrx RA? because an STI RA handles pretty much identically as it's the same power distribution.
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What is it about empty car park activities that seem to attract boguns? I saw an empty car park the other dau so in I went, after only about 5 mins, i stopped and went to leave and there were a few cars there watching, I thought maybe they were going to park, but they all left when I did.
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Originally Posted by TyPe~~R
Thats interesting, ive often thought it must be the set up, people say the type r is a handfull sometimes, but I find the grip excellent. The only time's where I have a brown pants moment is on bumps in the middle of bends, it upsets the back end and goes for it lol.

I'll look into my set up a bit more thanks.

I have just found this out very recently scarryyyyyyyy indeed
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What happend??
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Glad i read this thread
avoid roads with sizeable bumps
only had my V4 type r a few weeks
had an evo V before but this is more of a drivers car and i prefer it
the evo was almost crashproof these things will bite you if you let them
i cant wait to get an empty greasy car park let the drifting begin
although i have been using the diff lock a lot i would love to master the art of the drift
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Well mate, when or IF you do master the drift in the Type R, do share lol
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Originally Posted by TyPe~~R
Well mate, when or IF you do master the drift in the Type R, do share lol
Yeah more IF than when i think
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Originally Posted by tath
i think, after much deliberation, that this thread should be edited from "Can the Type-R drift properly?" to "Can any Type-R drivers drift properly?"...
I can't as I found out in the middle of Limassol town Centre after gunning it half way through a corner!
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See the 2nd video down in here ..........

http://www.shand-online.co.uk/

Tail out whilst making progress after farting about with the diff biasing

Cal
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Originally Posted by washer
try 120 behind a bike like i did last night on a bend the bast**d hit his brakes and i went sideways no probs there and it was wet
Did the same thing a couple of months ago, was racing a mate doing near 120 in the dry, hit the brakes when I come to a island and the back end kicked out, I then caught the back end and drifted the island
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