Car lifting
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Originally Posted by SamUK
Hi,
When i put my foot down, why does my car lift up from the front?
I would have thought if its a 4 wheel drive it would'nt do that...
Sam
When i put my foot down, why does my car lift up from the front?
I would have thought if its a 4 wheel drive it would'nt do that...
Sam
If you want to prevent this, the silly way would be to increase spring rate in the rear, and increase rebound damping in the front ... that was a joke, but you get the picture. It'd work but you get a very dangerous car then
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As said above.. the lifting of the front is purely the laws of physics.
Imagine the car has a level sticking out the top of the roof.. if you push back on it, the car will tip back.. this is exactly what is happening to the centre of gravity when you accelerate.
Don't despare though, this is not necessarily a bad thing. The weight transfer from the front tyres to the rear will happen anyway.. what the pitching of the body means is that the front suspension is pushing the tyres into the ground, so you're still getting grip from the front tyres.
Anti-lift kits definitely have their uses, but from a weight transfer point of view, they CAN (if set-up wrongly) create more power-on understeer due to effectively increasing (momentarily) the weight transfer.
All the best
Simon
Imagine the car has a level sticking out the top of the roof.. if you push back on it, the car will tip back.. this is exactly what is happening to the centre of gravity when you accelerate.
Don't despare though, this is not necessarily a bad thing. The weight transfer from the front tyres to the rear will happen anyway.. what the pitching of the body means is that the front suspension is pushing the tyres into the ground, so you're still getting grip from the front tyres.
Anti-lift kits definitely have their uses, but from a weight transfer point of view, they CAN (if set-up wrongly) create more power-on understeer due to effectively increasing (momentarily) the weight transfer.
All the best
Simon
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Originally Posted by N1 SPAN
I think the anti lift kit was designed to combat this. Think it's less than £100 too. Check out the scooby shop, sure someone will sell it on there. Think it's by Whiteline.
You can think of anti-lift geometry as a dynamic change of spring rate, so that when braking and accelerating the front-end spring rate is effectively increased somewhat, so reducing lift on acceleration and dip on braking.
By removing the anti-lift geometry (with the ALK) the effective spring rate stays fixed, is more consistent and somewhat softer under acceleration and braking, giving more grip.
Last edited by DuncanG; 02 July 2004 at 03:53 PM. Reason: more detail
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Originally Posted by ru'
This is one of the main reasons that front wheel drive is such a dumb idea!!
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Originally Posted by pappasmurf
Mine used to feel it was taking off....until i replaced the standard Sti IV rear spoiler with an Sti V one...never had the problem again.
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