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Old 09 August 2011, 10:42 PM
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Default Clutch for 500bhp Newage STI V8

Whats everyone running, I dont want something thats gonna be clunky in traffic tho? Any ideas?
Old 10 August 2011, 12:09 AM
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AP organic everytime. Drives just like OEM.
Old 10 August 2011, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
AP organic everytime. Drives just like OEM.

Thnks very very much, any idea who supplies?
Old 10 August 2011, 02:49 AM
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Exedy twin plate(Lateral Performance) or ACT(PM here Harvey),Carbonetic Twin Plate



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Old 10 August 2011, 06:57 AM
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I am replacing my Exedy twin plate with an ACT 6 puck . 450 bhp was enough to kill my Exedy .
Old 10 August 2011, 07:06 AM
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Organic on my 400+ build.
Old 10 August 2011, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Dan
I am replacing my Exedy twin plate with an ACT 6 puck . 450 bhp was enough to kill my Exedy .
Well something wasn't right then, because we run the Exedy twin plates at over 600bhp !!!


If you've got a solid 500bhp, with good torque, and intend to drive it hard, don't waste your money on an AP, or any other organic clutch, they aren't up to the job.


The Exedy twin plates are more than proven, and the ACT paddle clutches seem to be working well.


Mark.
Old 10 August 2011, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by stevep360
Thnks very very much, any idea who supplies?
David, at Api
Old 10 August 2011, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Dan
I am replacing my Exedy twin plate with an ACT 6 puck . 450 bhp was enough to kill my Exedy .
It wasn't fitted properly then.

I run 601bhp 565ftlbs and it's done 30+ 1/4 mile launches, 6000 miles and i've recently measured plate thickness and that use has taken 0.2mm off the plates from when they were new.

I'm not exactly gentle with it either with a 10.9 1/4 in a full weight car (1343kg with me in it and half a tank of fuel)
Old 11 August 2011, 07:22 AM
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What do people think the AP Organics limit is as I'm about to swap turbos and should be just North of 450/450?
Old 11 August 2011, 07:56 AM
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This is an interesting thread. Sorry to jump on the band wagon here with my question. I havent the foggiest what power im running at the moment, but its thought to be well over 400bhp on a 2.0 STI.With an uprated brand new 5 Paddle clutch kit from CG Motorsport, it appears this hasnt a hope in hell of launching even after 800miles bedding in, has anyone experience simular issues with a paddle? Rob
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Originally Posted by BlueBugEye
What do people think the AP Organics limit is as I'm about to swap turbos and should be just North of 450/450?
Although mine was a 5 speed one MY AP Organic shat itself at 350 ftlbs. Its replacemnt did the same. The centres sheared out of them both. I've never used one since.

I really have no complaints about the Exedy Twin plate it's been fantastic so far.

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Old 11 August 2011, 11:19 AM
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ACT street disc is very good.
Old 11 August 2011, 12:26 PM
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Another vote for a Exedy twin, mine encourages me to double clutch/ launch at every opportunity
Old 12 August 2011, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueBugEye
What do people think the AP Organics limit is as I'm about to swap turbos and should be just North of 450/450?
I have an AP organic on my 2.5 with 470/480.

It's an exceptional clutch.

Ns04
Old 12 August 2011, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I have an AP organic on my 2.5 with 470/480.

It's an exceptional clutch.

Ns04
What that clutch lke for launching?

Rob
Old 12 August 2011, 09:23 AM
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I also have an organic on my 460/460 2.5, but it has not had any hard use at all - maybe 3 or 4 hard launches (1st/2nd) in about 16k miles. Clutch is very easy - same as std clutch.

Thinking of upgrading to a twin plate but could someone tell me how noisy twin plates are - I heard they clatter when the pedal is pressed. Also are they like paddle clutches - difficult to slip in traffic.
Old 12 August 2011, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
What that clutch lke for launching?

Rob
If that's your thing, it copes with L/C on my Racerom, which holds the car at 5.5k for a launch

Personally, Its not something I'd advocate doing regularly with any clutch mind (I certainly don't). If you want to put the car in competitions then the twin plate route might be the best option, but there will be concessions in the way the car drives in traffic and they can be on the noisy side. AP is fit and forget and the car drives normally in traffic.

Ns04
Old 12 August 2011, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
If that's your thing, it copes with L/C on my Racerom, which holds the car at 5.5k for a launch

Personally, Its not something I'd advocate doing regularly with any clutch mind (I certainly don't). If you want to put the car in competitions then the twin plate route might be the best option, but there will be concessions in the way the car drives in traffic and they can be on the noisy side. AP is fit and forget and the car drives normally in traffic.

Ns04
I believe that I just have issues with my clutch which im in talks with the manufactorer, Its said that I should be able to launch the car but It wont I have done everything asked of me and more, but Im still not happy with it.

I drive the car to events, and intend on running in say SSO and Grudgments only.

I tried a launch with my last a 2.5 Organic Helix and it handled it well considering, but as it slipped the clutch slightly, but it wasnt the desired controlled launch I was looking for thus I have opted for this uprated 5 Paddle.

I'm ringing the manufacturers again this evening, jjust hope the issues can be resolved or my teddy is out of the pram!

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

Rob
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Lots of myths here.

Exedy Twin plate is easy to drive, almost feels like a stock clutch. Infact the only time you know its a twin plate is when you press the clutch at idle and it rattles a bit.
Old 12 August 2011, 09:22 PM
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keep them coming boys i just want a useable clutch for a daily driver, car will be around 450 hp soon but will be close to 500hp by the time i get a built closed deck block in it. Want something that feels like oem and isn't a pain in the **** to drive
Old 12 August 2011, 09:34 PM
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Whoever built your car/engine to 500bhp will have a good idea which clutch to fit to cope with the power.....
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I have an exedy twin plate, car is daily driver and other half drives it a lot. The pedal is certainly not OEM light but I only really notice it after driving a "normal" car. Worse thing is rattle, rattle, rattle (if that will bother you) and can judder a bit if your light footed with it (they really grip well).

Most amusing thing is when MOT time comes and some unfamiler mechanic goes to drive it on ramps etc. I have given up telling them about the clutch (as they all give me that look as if I am an idiot) and just watch them stall it a few times while trying not to laugh
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Thanks for the heads up on twinplate clutches Daz and Un......ds (too lazy to type it all out )

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I've just fitted an ACT sb4-xtss

Still bedding in but feels great and supposed to handle just under 570ftlbs!
Old 16 August 2011, 07:36 AM
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Who supplied the ACT?
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Hi Steve,

I purchased it on ebay from an american seller. As off-putting as that may sound, all in all it cost me about £440 including customs charges

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

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Cheers Tom.
Sounds like you've got some nice mods going on.
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Not quite yet, just future proofing for what's coming
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Originally Posted by TH3_5T1G
Hi Steve,

I purchased it on ebay from an american seller. As off-putting as that may sound, all in all it cost me about £440 etc etc

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Good price well done.

David APi

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