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Old 25 September 2008, 12:40 PM
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As above !

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Old 25 September 2008, 02:58 PM
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No, it can do, but not always.

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Old 25 September 2008, 10:27 PM
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there must be somethin in the air mine went 2 weeks ago and spoke to a few people on here who have had wheel bearing failure in the past few months .

my bearing had collapsed and when i went to have the bearing pressed out the hub cracked,cookstar had same problem 2 months ago i think.
Old 25 September 2008, 11:38 PM
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I noticed the brake pedal going south.... due to pad knock off !

No LOL

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Old 26 September 2008, 08:38 AM
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Did in my case. I think the problem is that by the time the noise becomes obvious the hub is at risk. Scoobyclinic sorted mine and sourced a second hand hub for £45, so not too dreadful as it all has to come apart anyway.
Old 26 September 2008, 11:12 PM
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Hmmm, £100 + VAT sounds reasonable for a new one then !

Thanks fellas,

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Old 05 October 2008, 08:11 AM
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I paid £100 + VAT for mine
Old 05 October 2008, 01:35 PM
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i noticed my pedal go south once, then the steering go very strange and floppy, started to slow down ASAP and then the cv joint end snapped off, the wheel then fell off and the car locked up and skidded down the road with the wheel banging off my inner arch/front wing.

6 months after i had the wheel bearing replaced by a local specialist

the part that goes through the middle was out of spec and it never should have had a new bearing pressed in after it was inspected (by a different mech at the same place!!!)
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that's nasty !

Well to complete the feedback, yes it did **** the hub !

Mine now needs the geometry doing, some braided hoses fitting and.....


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Old 05 October 2008, 11:34 PM
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I bust the wheel bearing on the passenger side front everytime I do a track day now. I am going to try more negative camber next time to see if that helps.
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what damage did it do mate
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Stay off the kerbs SPEN555,to answer your question its usualy doesnt knacker the hub
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When mine went the hub was fine. Bought a bearing for £40 and pressed it in using my local garages press. Easy with the press, a booger without.
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Just had my front drivers side bearing done today, it was making alot of noise especially cornering left.

The mechanic said he needed to apply 30 tons of pressure to remove the bearing from the hub and was surprised it didnt crack the hub
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Ive also got a spare bearing kit as i bought a pair of ebay, its a blueprint item.
25 quid delivered if anyone needs 1 !!!
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Originally Posted by maydew
what damage did it do mate
Just had to replace bearing but mechanic says it can knacker the hub.

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Old 13 October 2008, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rallycol
Stay off the kerbs SPEN555,to answer your question its usualy doesnt knacker the hub
I don't go over the kerbs It's too much for a road car and my wallet IMHO.
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Hey ppl. Was there any distinct noise that could be heard when driving in relation to the bearings going? Reason why Im asking is because Im getting a hollow whine coming in at 50mph which tends to go once I hit 70mph but finding it difficult to pin point as did my mechanic. Changed the rear diff but that did not solve anything
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The last time it was making a right racket from 40mph onwards. As it was the passenger side front when cornering RH bends it would get worse and on LH bends almost unnoticeable. So I knew something was wrong with the passenger side of the car and suspected the front bearing after doing a trackday.

HTH.
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Originally Posted by Slick81
Hey ppl. Was there any distinct noise that could be heard when driving in relation to the bearings going? Reason why Im asking is because Im getting a hollow whine coming in at 50mph which tends to go once I hit 70mph but finding it difficult to pin point as did my mechanic. Changed the rear diff but that did not solve anything
You got me thinking now......... i have noticed just recently mine seems to have a similar noise, only does it between 65-70 though, kind of a "werrr werrr werrr" noise

My previous type R had a wheel bearing go, but seemed to make the noise the whole time once doing motorway speeds, well say over 60mph??
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Mine whined and squeeled like a dieing pig but only at slower speeds 20-40 say.

Got the bearing out without a press but the hub had had it upon inspection.

Buggered hub so sourced a second hand one for 60 delivered.
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Mine too !

Biggest give away was the soft brake pedal as the pads got pushed back.

Reversing into the garage on full lock made it squeak, but outside the car it was awful ! REALLY LOUD !!

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Old 13 November 2008, 02:34 PM
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From what I've gathered heat from the brakes can effect the wheel bearing, is this correct..?

If so, I wonder, could a failing bearing be the cause of my problem..? When I give my AP's some grief the OSF makes a tish, tish, tish sound as if something is running out of line . Everything else has been eliminated (dust shield etc) and it only happens when the brakes are hot. Goes away after 30 sec or so cooling/off brakes. No obvious signs of rubbing anywhere.
Could the Alloy bell be transferring more heat to the hub and somehow distorting a possibly on it's way out bearing..?

I've also noticed that, for some reason the OSF wheel always appears to have more brake dust on it than the NSF. Yet pad wear is equal for both sides..?! Could just be road grime from opposing traffic I suppose..?
Old 14 November 2008, 10:46 AM
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AFAIK an advantage of 2 piece discs is less heat transfer to the hub. I've had APs with various pads on track and not experienced any funny noises (loads of pad transfer so going to try RS29 when I replace discs, Instructor tells me off for braking just a bit too hard).

Hate to suggest it but all I can think of is the bearing failing, do you get any pad knockback. I had a NSR go and it made a woo woo woo noise for ages before replacement especially on very smooth roads.
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It does seem likely IMHO.

Is there anyway of checking the bearing if it's only 'just' on it's way..?

Going to get RCM to do cambelt soon, so I might ask olly to have a look..
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A DTI bolted on will show any run-out at the disc, a good indicator of what's worn.

IIRC

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Old 15 November 2008, 10:30 PM
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My rear passenger side bearing went, i did hear a whine from it then it stopped, so thought no more of it until my mate was following me one day and said my wheel was wobbling!, got a new one pressed in and all was fine.
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I just done my second bearing in 12 months! At home no press and not so much of a problem in my mind....

Anyways going for a test run seems that It has solved one noise but the other side is foobarred as well...so happy bearing changing sundays ahead.
Old 17 November 2008, 09:42 AM
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If you want to check for play in the bearing you need to remove the 32mm hub nut then try to wobble the hub. The hub nut seems to support the bearing (dunno why) and disguises any play. Mate had a rear bearing fail on an 06STi (damaged by running off track into grass sideways) and it looked OK until hub nut was removed and then the play in it was alarming, also goosed the hub.
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