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Old 06 July 2005, 03:23 PM
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A bit of a weird one. I get a crunching (sensation no noise though) when executing fast gear changes from 3rd to 4th at 6k upwards. If I change gear slowley (still @ high rpm) no crunch.

Doesn't happen in any other gear. Any ideas?

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Old 06 July 2005, 06:12 PM
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Classic signs of failig synchro's..... sounds like new baulk rings required!
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Originally Posted by RON
Classic signs of failig synchro's..... sounds like new baulk rings required!
Thanks M8.

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Old 07 July 2005, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RON
Classic signs of failig synchro's..... sounds like new baulk rings required!
I have the same problem..though have no idea what a synchro's is....


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Old 07 July 2005, 01:36 PM
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The synchromesh will synchronise the cog speeds to allow for an easier gearchange. A bit like revoling door in a hotel you walk quicker if the door is spinning quicker & slow down if it is going slowly. And you get through without "crunching" yourself

Which in principle is the same for changing gears.....
Old 07 July 2005, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gidney&Knowlesy
The synchromesh will synchronise the cog speeds to allow for an easier gearchange. A bit like revoling door in a hotel you walk quicker if the door is spinning quicker & slow down if it is going slowly. And you get through without "crunching" yourself

Which in principle is the same for changing gears.....
i get the exact same thing sometimes in mine when changing quickly at hi revs from 3rd to 4th, how this solved? nothing major i hope
Old 07 July 2005, 07:24 PM
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as long as you don't consider taking the box out and replacing the synchro rings major... sorry!
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Originally Posted by tath
as long as you don't consider taking the box out and replacing the synchro rings major... sorry!
i dont know smartarse! is takin the box out and replacing the synchro rings major then or what? pricey or do you actually know?
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never taken a scooby box out but id imagine 30quid per hour min for someone who knows what they're doing - thats gonna be upwards of 150 just to take the box out and refit. then synchros are what? £15-£100 each? i have no idea tbh for a scoob

plus a few hours to fit... it's gonna be £350 at the minimum id imagine. thought of a new (well secondhand) box?

edit: have any of you tried changing your box oil?

Last edited by tath; 07 July 2005 at 09:47 PM. Reason: i'm a miserable ******* who should try and be more positive
Old 07 July 2005, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tath
never taken a scooby box out but id imagine 30quid per hour min for someone who knows what they're doing - thats gonna be upwards of 150 just to take the box out and refit. then synchros are what? £15-£100 each? i have no idea tbh for a scoob

plus a few hours to fit... it's gonna be £350 at the minimum id imagine. thought of a new (well secondhand) box?

edit: have any of you tried changing your box oil?
got her fully serviced when she came in last month all oils changed..runnin fine, just sometimes as i said when flying from 3rd to 4th it crunches a lil bit, its out in the mechanics having the downpipe fitted so il say it to him tmrw to see what the story is..
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Originally Posted by flat4_ire
got her fully serviced when she came in last month all oils changed..runnin fine, just sometimes as i said when flying from 3rd to 4th it crunches a lil bit, its out in the mechanics having the downpipe fitted so il say it to him tmrw to see what the story is..
yeah sounds like the *beginning* of synchro trouble. be ok for a while - get saving!

mine baulks if i go 1st to 2nd too quickly sometimes but i'm not too worried at the mo...
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This problem has been fixed. No gearbox or synchro required. Changed the gearbox oil from Silkoline to Castrol and it went away.

There are quite a few threads on this so I guess it can be quite common.
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