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Old 08 June 2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Downpipe replacement! Is it an easy job???

Can find any posts on this, but I bet there is some, but......................

Im getting a TSL Decat soon, and Im thinking of doing this myself. I've heard of seized nuts though Has anyone ever done one on a MY99 Classic, or any classic I suppose. I also believe getting the Turbo heatsheild off maybe a pain!

Can anyone shed some light?? Im half decent with a spanner honest!!!
Old 08 June 2005, 02:32 PM
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Not too bad - just use plenty of penetrating (oo-err) spray and you should be OK!

Heat shield nuts are more fiddly than difficult!
Old 08 June 2005, 02:35 PM
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Great! I think I'll have a go. Sounds easy
Old 08 June 2005, 03:12 PM
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It took a mechanic over 3 hours to do my MY94 with a four poster ramp, a few shearing bolts and a lot swearing I believe, though I wasnt there Might be better on yours being a '99.
Old 08 June 2005, 03:35 PM
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DOH! Well, I'll have a go, if they dont come off, I'll take it to a friendly neighbourhood mechanic, and let HIM loose his knuckles
Old 08 June 2005, 08:04 PM
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Penetrating oil, ideally whilst things are still hot, is the best way. Getting the intercooler off while things are still hot is easy. Getting the heat shield off to expose the turbo studs without burning your hands is the "fun" part Full exhaust change in about 2 1/4 hours work on my own in my garage with ramps last time I did one - always managed it in an evening after work, anyway. Admittedly that's on a bugeye, but the process is extremely similar.
Old 08 June 2005, 08:10 PM
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Doing mine tomorrow too looking forward to it
Old 08 June 2005, 11:47 PM
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Good idea to 'wrap' the pipe as well...

Also you'll probably need to modify the heat shield when you put it back on, coz the new downpipe will have a wider neck. I cut mine in half and secured it with just 3 bolts.

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Old 09 June 2005, 12:06 AM
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when un doing the two top nuts/ bults, might be wise to use some sort of leaver, i.e a pole over the rachet or spanner, as this will give more lever,and less jerk of witch couses snapped bolts, plus save your nuckles from skin damage?
Old 09 June 2005, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fast_cat
Good idea to 'wrap' the pipe as well..
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Have heard about wrap, what is this for? I know for keeping heat in, but why?
Old 09 June 2005, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pauld37
Have heard about wrap, what is this for? I know for keeping heat in, but why?
Because you don't want the heat radiating into the engine bay, heating up the intercooler and everything else, better the heat gets blown out of the exhaust.

It's also supposed to increase the pops and bangs you get with full decat as the downpipe will be nice an hot inside to ignite any unburnt fuel
Old 09 June 2005, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Graz
It's also supposed to increase the pops and bangs you get with full decat as the downpipe will be nice an hot inside to ignite any unburnt fuel
I like the sound of that
Old 09 June 2005, 09:57 AM
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Me too Cant wait! My mates pops and bangs without the tape, so gawd knows how much better its gonna be
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Liddo, where did you get your wrap from?
Old 09 June 2005, 11:49 AM
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Paul, I aint got it yet, but if I do, I'll PM ya and tell ya
Old 09 June 2005, 12:27 PM
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www.agriemach.com offer a nice fat discount if you mention SN
Old 09 June 2005, 12:50 PM
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Cheers Chrome, Bookmarked the page! Its only £26 anyway


http://www.agriemach.com/product_inf...roducts_id=363
Old 09 June 2005, 12:52 PM
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Actually, now many feet will we need??? Surely only 15ft at £8.75

http://www.agriemach.com/product_inf...roducts_id=694

Grand!
Old 09 June 2005, 01:01 PM
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Ooo I'll try there too
Old 09 June 2005, 01:30 PM
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Gone for the 1" x 25ft and 5 ties, £25, sorted
Old 09 June 2005, 02:50 PM
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Might be worth getting the heat proof paint and sprying it as well. Apparently the wrap can soak up a lot of water otherwise. Okay if you don't mind a load of steam coming out of your bonnet for the first few miles of a trip
Old 09 June 2005, 03:28 PM
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Reeto! Sounds good to me! Wrap and Paint it is then
Old 09 June 2005, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Graz
Might be worth getting the heat proof paint and sprying it as well. Apparently the wrap can soak up a lot of water otherwise. Okay if you don't mind a load of steam coming out of your bonnet for the first few miles of a trip
Bloody hell more expense
Old 13 June 2005, 01:13 PM
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'Kin 'ell, who said this was easy???? Did this yesterday, went round a mates who has a pit in their garage, not possible on ramps surely? Lost count of the amount of bolts holding the heat shields on, then had to remove the intercooler to get the sheilds out.
The downpipe itself came out easy, but because the pipe I was putting in was an openneck one the shields wouldn't fit it so my mate cut and shut the shields to suit.
Took around 5 hours to do
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Will be easier next time - I stick the DP back on when MOT time comes round - on a trolley jack, It takes me about 1.5 hrs (and that aint really pushing it!)
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Originally Posted by pauld37
'Kin 'ell, who said this was easy???? Did this yesterday, went round a mates who has a pit in their garage, not possible on ramps surely?
I've done two exhaust swaps on ramps on consecutive evenings within the last month, so I'd say it's possible. Admittedly, short people would struggle to reach into the engine bay from ramps, and it doesn't give a lot of room at the back of the car (but there's only rubber hangers on the backbox.)

Heatshield - yeah, it does need a bit of chopping, and the bolt down the bottom nearest the osf wheel is a bit irritating to get at. However, nothing you shouldn't expect wih car mechanics.

Easy is all relative. Try chaning the up-pipe, you'll think the downpipe is easy then!
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Originally Posted by TonyFlow
Will be easier next time - I stick the DP back on when MOT time comes round - on a trolley jack, It takes me about 1.5 hrs (and that aint really pushing it!)
Not doing that, will put the centre section back on for MOT day
Old 13 June 2005, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hades
Easy is all relative. Try chaning the up-pipe, you'll think the downpipe is easy then!
Did that, piece of p1ss
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