STI8 i/c or Hyperflow
30 March 2005, 11:45 AM
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the hyperflow would probably bolt straight on the sti8 would need a lot more work to fit and the v5 dump valve won't fit. have a look at 911's thread in projects. thats fitting sti8 to v4 but apart from dump valve everything same as 911's. would think the sti8 intercooler better due to its size.
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31 March 2005, 12:56 AM
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Cheers guys.
Not really too bothered about the hassle fitting one. Done some research and it doesn't seem to be as much of a pain on the sti 5 as you mentioned Jon. Was just wondering if there was any performance benefits for the extra cash.
Looks like I'm on the prowl for an sti 8 i/c then.
Not really too bothered about the hassle fitting one. Done some research and it doesn't seem to be as much of a pain on the sti 5 as you mentioned Jon. Was just wondering if there was any performance benefits for the extra cash.
Looks like I'm on the prowl for an sti 8 i/c then.
31 March 2005, 06:25 AM
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The Sti8 gives you the ability to open up the engine to the other more significant mods, TD 20g/injectors etc and get the benefit of those while keeping weight and to an extent, lag, to a minimum.
Alone I doubt you would see a step-change increase in performance with just the Sti8 TMIC.
I changed mine just as much for the fun (?) of modding the car, but allowing the changes to be effective.
Just to note, at Well Lane the bhp readings on 5 successive runs over 15 mins were:
353/357/407/394/373 That was put down to heat soak in the TMIC having an effect (max boost 1.42 bar)
The stock Stiv3 TMIC would never have done that, but a FMIC would have done better (@ £1000 when finished)
The Sti8 cost £250 finished. (saving bought the 20g!)
Graham.
Alone I doubt you would see a step-change increase in performance with just the Sti8 TMIC.
I changed mine just as much for the fun (?) of modding the car, but allowing the changes to be effective.
Just to note, at Well Lane the bhp readings on 5 successive runs over 15 mins were:
353/357/407/394/373 That was put down to heat soak in the TMIC having an effect (max boost 1.42 bar)
The stock Stiv3 TMIC would never have done that, but a FMIC would have done better (@ £1000 when finished)
The Sti8 cost £250 finished. (saving bought the 20g!)
Graham.
31 March 2005, 11:17 PM
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Cheers Graham.
I've been reading your project with interest and probable should have mentioned that yes, this will be followed by the usual mods e.g. injectors, turbo (20g natch) and maybe headers. Don't want to be seen to be copying you too much as its a type r with a full decat and apexi pfc.
When Andy was mapping it he mentioned that the i/c was pretty much out of its depth at my current spec and suggested an sti8 item to replace it. Searching the for sale section I noticed a few of the ones that were for sale were being replaced by hyperflows and wondered if I'd be wise to go the extra mile.
I've been reading your project with interest and probable should have mentioned that yes, this will be followed by the usual mods e.g. injectors, turbo (20g natch) and maybe headers. Don't want to be seen to be copying you too much as its a type r with a full decat and apexi pfc.
When Andy was mapping it he mentioned that the i/c was pretty much out of its depth at my current spec and suggested an sti8 item to replace it. Searching the for sale section I noticed a few of the ones that were for sale were being replaced by hyperflows and wondered if I'd be wise to go the extra mile.
01 April 2005, 06:17 AM
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I copied everyone else!
Sometimes it is best not to be the first guy on the block...
If Andy say's STi8 just follow that.
The '8' has a relatively shallow matrix but is very wide and much deeper from front to back so the air has a lot of area to go over, but is not choked trying to get through too much depth.
The aftermarket TMIC's are easy to fit in comparisom but are restrained by existing brackets, clutch reserviors etc.
A good '8' will cost about £250 nowadays and a weekend to fit for the first time.
Check-out Floyds efforts now on Project (bet you are already!)
Graham
Sometimes it is best not to be the first guy on the block...
If Andy say's STi8 just follow that.
The '8' has a relatively shallow matrix but is very wide and much deeper from front to back so the air has a lot of area to go over, but is not choked trying to get through too much depth.
The aftermarket TMIC's are easy to fit in comparisom but are restrained by existing brackets, clutch reserviors etc.
A good '8' will cost about £250 nowadays and a weekend to fit for the first time.
Check-out Floyds efforts now on Project (bet you are already!)
Graham
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02 April 2005, 01:41 AM
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Yeah, been watching that thread too. Will have to stop looking and start doing soon. Thing is my i/c, injectors and turbo have all maxed out at the same time so upgrdaing 2 out of 3 wouldn't really help so need all 3. Hope the missus doesn't realise what these bits and pieces cost.
02 April 2005, 06:10 AM
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Just been there and done all that.
The total upgrade cost I think was £3000 for my car, but it is all or nothing realy.
Bloody fast car mind and great fun doing it (blood, sweat, tears comes to mind).
Graham
The total upgrade cost I think was £3000 for my car, but it is all or nothing realy.
Bloody fast car mind and great fun doing it (blood, sweat, tears comes to mind).
Graham
07 July 2005, 01:02 PM
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I am gobsmacked at how well the STi8 TMIC performs. After sitting in traffic and getting heatsoak the temps can rise 10C but after 350metres it'll drop back 10C! If I hadn't seen it for myself Then I wouldn't have believed it. the OE TMIC would never have got close to this performance.
As you've gone FMIC then none of this matters. Only the extra hassle of fitting a FMIC is your worry now (and potential lag). Good luck.
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As you've gone FMIC then none of this matters. Only the extra hassle of fitting a FMIC is your worry now (and potential lag). Good luck.
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09 July 2005, 01:19 AM
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Floyd,
What splitter do you have? I've ordered an STI8 style hood scoop but I dont know what to do about the splitter. Would it be possible to fit an STI splitter as well. I mean does it work efficiently?
What splitter do you have? I've ordered an STI8 style hood scoop but I dont know what to do about the splitter. Would it be possible to fit an STI splitter as well. I mean does it work efficiently?
09 July 2005, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SoNiCa
Floyd,
What splitter do you have? I've ordered an STI8 style hood scoop but I dont know what to do about the splitter. Would it be possible to fit an STI splitter as well. I mean does it work efficiently?
What splitter do you have? I've ordered an STI8 style hood scoop but I dont know what to do about the splitter. Would it be possible to fit an STI splitter as well. I mean does it work efficiently?
i did exactly the same as you, with an 8 I/C and bonnet scoop (milsport). i bought a 8 undertray as well, but it requires too much work to get it to fit properly.
using the classic undertray is pointless, cos of the small hole. if you cut this hole bigger you wont be able to fit any of the e-bay / scooby-si type splitters.
i ended up making my own. fair bit of work involved but more effective and looks better than chopping and welding.
undertray
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00406.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00405.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00404.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00408.jpg
the aftermarket scoop has a big air catcher in the back of it, that you are best to get rid off.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00402.jpg
splitter and scoop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00425.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00427.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00429.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...k/DSC00428.jpg
09 July 2005, 09:58 PM
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Mark your undertray looks very like mine.
Sonica, I don't use a splitter. The performance is good enough for road use without it. I'll let you know if one is needed for track use in Aug. See my project thread in projects.
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Sonica, I don't use a splitter. The performance is good enough for road use without it. I'll let you know if one is needed for track use in Aug. See my project thread in projects.
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09 July 2005, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Mark your undertray looks very like mine
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i was determined to use the 8 undertray for the 'from the factory look' but it would need that mutch bashing and cutting it would look awful. a nice new flat sheet of ally is definetly the way to go.
i think the only real diffference between yours and mine is i used the seal off the 8 undertray, and you have used the foam.
10 July 2005, 08:21 PM
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I'm glad it helped someone. I have sourced some rubber sheeting (fetish shops have their uses) and I intend to create a seal like the OE design so expect an upadte on the project soon
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