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Old 15 September 2004, 05:49 PM
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Thinking of getting the following done to my car and just want see what rough figures I should be pushing out with repect to bhp & torque:

Howard and scott decatt down pipe
up pipe
grouppe S headers
3 inch system all the way through
Uprated fuel pump + regulator
Andy F tdos/06 turbo
550cc injectors
3 port boost solenoid
K + N induction kit
Link ECU + Remap

Any comments appreciated!!

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Old 15 September 2004, 05:51 PM
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depends on how its mapped (ie boost etc).

How about I/C?

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Old 15 September 2004, 05:55 PM
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Well if it helps its definitly going to get mapped by Bob from BRD. I/c will be put on at a later stage. Budget cant stretch that far!
Old 15 September 2004, 05:59 PM
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if you dont change the intercooler the power/bhp will be well low
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what year/model is it?

You wont be going far on std I/C unless its sti7/8.

Best to get it mapped after all mods otherwise you will have to re-map again.

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Old 15 September 2004, 06:08 PM
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Its a MY00 P1

I'm not in the postion to get all the mods, sisters wedding coming up so would prefer to do it in two stages. Second remap I have been told is a lot less than the initial one.
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Your P1 I/c is worth around £200. A STi7/8 one will cost around £250-300.

A re-map will cost you how much?

Old 15 September 2004, 06:14 PM
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you will be lucky if you get past 320bhp with that intercooler, its not even worth changing the injectors over
Old 15 September 2004, 06:15 PM
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true...even my WRX ones bigger than the P1 one eh steve ?
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Originally Posted by stevebt
you will be lucky if you get past 320bhp with that intercooler, its not even worth changing the injectors over
he should be okay for a bit more than that....not much mind you

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Old 15 September 2004, 07:05 PM
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erm... It looks like its worth changing the intercooler.

question is bigger top mount or front mount???

With this done what will the mods be good for???

Thanks for your reply's guys!!!
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400bhp odd with a decent I/C. Will need to change injectors too though (£250-300).

STi8 top mount is meant to be good and cheap too
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Not sure exactly how much power the sti8 I/C is good for but AndyF seems to rate it well.
Old 16 September 2004, 09:39 PM
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Has anybody tried the Hyperflow TMIC instead of a bigger FMIC

Its 2.14 bigger than standard and a lot cheaper than a FMIC...looks good too and it's a bar and plate design

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http://www.j-w-racing.co.uk/acatalog...tercooler.html

I read that AndyF uses a big top mount on his car

Anybody any comments

Simon
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£700?!?
Old 17 September 2004, 12:43 PM
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I read that AndyF uses a big top mount on his car

andyf's tmic is as big if not bigger than some people's fmic
Old 17 September 2004, 12:50 PM
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I think Rich W is still using a top mount - but NOT the standard one....
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So whats the best front mount intercooler to go for???
Old 19 September 2004, 01:03 AM
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one of harveys Hybrid FMIC will do or an STi8 TMIC.
Old 19 September 2004, 09:07 AM
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Also, how do you define 'best' ? If its 'easiest to fit', DONT go for the hybrid - I'm not saying its too difficult, just not the easiest...

For Price and effectiveness, I've found it well worth the fitting trouble, but not everyone wants to cut the bumper up etc....

Just thought it was worth mentioning..

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Old 20 September 2004, 05:56 PM
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Best in terms of performance and cost. As long as I don't lose my AC or driving lights i'm happy.

Is there a problem with lag after you fit a FMIC or can you map for that?

Thanks
Old 20 September 2004, 06:50 PM
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I have an MRT TMIC on order from Jap Innovations. It's not cheap but is meant to be pretty good and saves the hassle of fitting a FMIC. I just need a Miltek STi 8 scoop for my classic now
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P1 RAJ sorry im off topic here but do you live anywhere near walsall as ive seen a P1 with the private plate P1 RAJ round here a few times, been past my house a few times. Bloody nice lookin scoob is well whos ever it is.
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Not me Scoobyboy, I'm based near Heathrow. Wouldn't mind that plate though, pity there ain't no way to get in touch with him.

Will check out the MRT intercoolers, cheers Theo
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My car made 350bhp with the Original STI5 TMIC, with pretty much identical mods to those you have listed in the first part of this thread!! (MY00 P1 too!)

(Don't forget you will need a Catch Tank, Plugs, and change the Inlet pipe to turbo IMHO too)

The only difference was I am still on the OE ECU using ECUTEK software mapped by BRD. Have changed to a Hyperflow FMIC now, and getting re-map this weekend, so should see that 350bhp rise a little after!
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For the P1 lads, i saw a P1 at TSL saturday with 490bhp , Now thats serious power.
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Pickle which inlet pipe do you have?

490 is crazy power
Old 22 September 2004, 06:56 AM
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I made my own using 63mm Samco, and alloy tubing! All it cost me was the samco hose (around £20-25) and the welding of the alloy tubing which SPEC-R did for me!

Wouldn't let myself pay thru the nose for a Samco/MRT type hose!
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What torque figure did you get pickle with 350bhp?

Cheers
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300 FT/LB. That was @ G-Force rollers on a RR day earlier on this year.(1.3bar boost held on plain Optimax)
Have changed a few parts since then, FMIC, Induction tract etc, and will have the car mapped again Saturday. Hoping for a little under 400bhp depending on rollers etc. (Wouldn't like to exceed 350FT/LB as I still have OE STI5 type gearbox!)


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