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Old 27 January 2004, 08:05 AM
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Hi all,
I am hoping to shortly purchase a pre 97 Impreza - might be a 208hp UK one or if "lucky" a 220/240hp Japanese import.

I enquired with a couple o ftuning forms and was told these older models are not "chippable/mappable" yet I see mention here all the time of a ScoobyECU.

Can someone explain what these do in terms of bhp to any of the above and what they cost to buy & install ?

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Old 27 January 2004, 08:58 AM
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The chip for the ecu is about £100, you fit it yourself.
As far as bhp gains, I`m unsure exactly,
The contacts are Pavlo and David Wallis.

Hope this helps

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Old 27 January 2004, 09:26 AM
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I'd estimate that the 16 PSI version is good for about 270 bhp and the 14 PSI good for about 240. (very rough estimates from the backside dyno , so don't quote me!) The torque is also somewhat improved - this is what you notice first!

The benefit for the WRX is that you can get away without octane booster as the timing and fueling is adjusted to better suit UK fuel.

The obvious benefit to a UK car is that it is given a sensible power output. The need for super unleaded remains the same, as do the power estimations - the UK and WRX engines are 99% the same IIRC.

You don't have to install the yourself, there are a number of people who will fit them for a reasonable fee. (About £30, but it depends on the car - there is a touch more work for a WRX than a UK car)
Old 27 January 2004, 11:16 AM
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Hi

Does anyone know whether they are supplying the ECU again?? I e-mailed them thro the website www.scoobyecu.co.uk and got a blank automated reponse???

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Old 27 January 2004, 11:43 AM
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Email Pavlo or David Wallis

Old 27 January 2004, 12:03 PM
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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

but not yet

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feb 1st I hope
Old 27 January 2004, 12:17 PM
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Hi pavlo

If I e-mail now, will I be on the waiting list or should I wait till Feb 1st to send you an e-amil??

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Old 27 January 2004, 01:01 PM
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there should be enough to go round

email anyway so we can get back to you in future
Old 27 January 2004, 06:47 PM
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hi do you know if david will have any because i have mailed him a few times and i have no response plzzzzz could you put my name down for 1 thankyou
Old 27 January 2004, 08:16 PM
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Old 27 January 2004, 10:57 PM
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david or pavlo have u got my email
as im after 1 as soon as you have them
Old 28 January 2004, 07:33 AM
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Hi all, I'm also looking for this chip in the nearby future, is there a difference between the ecu from Pavlo and David ?

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Old 28 January 2004, 08:31 AM
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Hi All,
Well thanks for that. Sort of answers my original query. This is a replacement ecu i guess. Now the tricky part. I have spoken to firms about getting more bhp and they all say new exhaust system, programmable boost controller etc etc.... £2000 later!?!?

If I understand this correctly - you can install a ScoobyECU with appropriate boost to give 280hp on a standard '96 208hp UK engine? If that is so - what stops the motor going bang?? How strong are they with no internal changes??

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Old 28 January 2004, 09:09 AM
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They're about as strong as a WRX of the same age, since they're just about the same. Provided you keep the engine running detonation free (i.e. fit a knock link and keep an eye on it!!) then Scoob engines aren't exactly weak.

The ScoobyECU'd cars I've seen have all run very well and more or less knock free on the right fuel. (Sometimes you do get a bad tank full - hence the need for a knock/detonation monitor)

I have heard about cars running anywhere up to 400 bhp on standard engine internals, so 280ish isn't suddenly going to make it unreliable. (Of course there will be a slight life reduction, but I very much doubt you'll notice it.)

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Old 28 January 2004, 09:16 AM
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Remember that Paul and David aren't making bucket loads of cash here. They both have day jobs, and do this pretty much for the fun of playing with cars and charge just about enough to cover costs and pay for some of their time.

Tuning companies have to make ends meet, so they charge accordingly. A commercial version of a ScoobyECU would probably sell for £500 if the market hadn't already been cornered by enthusuiasts.

Oh and a decat downpipe (exhaust section from turbo) would help with the power and getting the turbo to spin up a bit earlier. The power is not all in the ScoobyECU chip, but it is a very good first step.
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...is there a difference between the ecu from Pavlo or David ?

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Old 28 January 2004, 11:14 AM
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No difference in the actual board or the chips, but I think the map may be slightly different. I doubt you'll notice though, unless you ask for something to be customised. (This will cost more though!!)
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