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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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not after an exhaust.. just a 3" or 3.5" silencer that silences..

getting old and need to make a new quiet exhaust.. any ideas for design or suppliers of silencers.. .NOT A SYSTEM!
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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Probably worth looking at the US market, loads of manufacturers used to supplying mufflers for high hp engines while keeping 48-state legal. You could probably find some high flow cats too, if you wanted.

Take a look at the Flowmaster site
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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I've also asked a mate who builds/restores/customises muscle cars who he uses, he might come up with someone better
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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There was a silencer test on autospeed, flow and noise tested, do a search.

Jetex do universal silencers and bends

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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You could give www.raceco.com a try - they are well respected on Caterhams, and they do lots of silencers for bikes and other cars as well. Not cheap though!

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[Edited by DaveMcC - 11/20/2003 9:40:48 PM]
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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David, there is company in Halifax called Pipercraft, they will make silencers to your size, spec and noise requirement in SS. Very neat jobs and not too expensive either.

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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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I use a short 3" Jetex box on my car, it's still a bit loud but you could fit the longer 3" or fit 2 of them ? They maintain a full 3" throughout unlike some silencers.

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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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im getting old..

I want something very quiet now..

Id like to try and make a backbox that looks oem too..

Ps.. stainless steel isnt an issue, I actually think stainless makes it louder / changes the note?

wastegate will also get plumbed back in :O

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Dave
Why not try power engineering? I have thier back box on mine with the twin 3" pipes which look like OEM and not too loud either plus the pipe is 3" as well.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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wastegate will also get plumbed back in :O


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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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Im not sure how well the PE one flows.. dont think it will do what I Want..
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=6106

http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=5241

http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=5819

http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=4733

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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Andy,

Any experience with them..

tempted to sling a couple of these on..

http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=5818

David
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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My mate got back to me. He says he uses Dynomax mufflers that he gets from Summit Racing (www.summitracing.com). He currently runs a 56 Chevy with about 600hp and runs the headers straight into the mufflers as a side exit and it's pretty quiet and flows very well.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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I have got the Power Engineering back box as well and I think it flows very well going by the improvement overall when I fitted the Turbo back system. As the other chap said, it has a deep but pleasant note and is not too loud. It is well known around here and I have even had elderly ladies says that they enjoy hearing it!

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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leslie..

but can it do 600 - 700 bhp ?

Ideally I want 3 - 3.5 dia pipework.

David
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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700 BHP David? Behave ! lol

Trty Zorstec in Bradford, they'll make you what size you want or WUNOFF in Skipton.

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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Hi David -
Probably not quite up to what you want, but Ian (Iain?) at H&S did me a one-off seriously 'old man' silencer but it's only 3", and even tapers to 2.5" internally at the tailpipe (with its own diddy little silencer in there - awww ). Certainly does the job well! But I think you need more like 3.5"?
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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There is a company in Cheshire that do custom exhausts and silencers from scratch. The silencers are double skin jobbies, and come in any size you want.

Sound reduction from:

length of silencer, longer is quieter
diameter of inner tube, smaller is quieter
outer diamter of can, larger is quieter

David,

Did I see a Kemp's Engineers Handbook (red, about 3.5 inches thick, million pages) at your place? If so that certainly has some formulae about absorbtion silencers which you might find useful.

A resonator will also help at specific engine speed(s).

Paul

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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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I dunno if you did?

I was thinking more of making the zorst myself.. so Long Fat silencers.. and a few of them..

Tailpipe may have to be two 3" dia..

David
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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David,

Just been out to measure it. Its a 3" inlet and outlet so I think it would not flow well enough for that sort of power.

Les
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Was thinking you had gone soft or made friends with the neighbours.. until you mentioned the two 3inch tail pipes..



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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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JP Exhausts in Cheshire made my 4" dia b/b. Good workmanship and turnaround. It is stupid loud though, even with a resonator in the c/c. Two 2" b/b's would be the better solution regarding noise vs flow.
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