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Old 01 June 2003, 12:30 PM
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Is the MY03 STi Lambda sensor wideband?
Old 01 June 2003, 05:26 PM
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Anyone with a Motec wideband lambda sensor permanently installed in there exhaust- is it worth it!!!
Old 01 June 2003, 08:25 PM
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The first sensor of all the WRX from MY01 is a wide band.

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Old 02 June 2003, 03:31 PM
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IIRC, The MoTeC "wideband" lambda sensor is actually a Bosch LSM-11 sensor, which is not a true wideband sensor. I believe the LSM-11 is a high quality regular style lambda sensor for which Bosch provide temperature compensation tables. The LSM-11 does not contain an ion pump.
Old 02 June 2003, 03:59 PM
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hi there Moray ..... like u said the MY01 is not a wideband O2 sensor, but is in fact a 4 wire lambda sensor.

Can someone host some pics for me to post the differences ?

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Old 02 June 2003, 04:11 PM
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Interesting!!!!

Then what is a true wideband lamda sensor and where can I get one?
Old 02 June 2003, 04:27 PM
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4 Wire Lambda sensor:

Old 02 June 2003, 04:48 PM
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5 Wire Lambda Sensor:

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Old 02 June 2003, 04:53 PM
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and please note, that only a Motec M800 (and probably PECTEL and some other units) will read a true wide band lambda sensor ..... it is also important to read the note about operating temps on 4 wire lambda sensors:

Normally the heater must be connected to mantain correct operating temperature.
In extreme cases where the exhaust temperature will exceed 800ºC for a significant amount of time the heater element should NOT be connected
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Old 02 June 2003, 06:15 PM
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Pectel T6 seems to run wideband closed loop lambda control pretty well on my car.
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Moray so interested on fuel economy ..... ????? ..... get a TURBO DIESEL

BTW do you have close loop also on the boost zones ?

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So if i understand correct when I want to monitor my A/F ratios accurately at full throttle with a permanent fixture then I need a 5 wire lambda sensor with a M800 ECU or Pectel T6 to read it?

Since I probably will be quite happy with my Ecutek flashed ECU when I get it back from Pete!!! Seems a bit excessive to have to buy another ECU to monitor A/F ratios:-(((

Can the standard 4 wire unit give me a reasonable indication?
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Yes ..... like it says on the note, it just depends on the location, I guess that if you fit it after the turbo it would be ok, but as close as possible to the turbo like on the previous WRX's

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Could someone post AFR ratios/voltages for the factory (pseudo) wideband O2 sensor of the MY03 WRX/STI?
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