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Old 19 September 2002, 05:31 PM
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My MY99 Turbo has been idleing very rough, drinking loads of optimax and have seen a drop in performance. Has been suggested that car was in "safe mode" and dealer said that even though no errors had appeared on Select Monitor they thought the air flow meter had gone and was causing the problem so gave them £100 and they replaced it.

Still got problems. Booked back in but anyone got any ideas...
Old 19 September 2002, 06:03 PM
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Have you got a boost gauge?
Any mods?

Access to someone with a deltadash?
Old 19 September 2002, 06:06 PM
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O2 sensor...???

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Old 19 September 2002, 06:56 PM
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mine was idling rough, it was the side of a piston missing due to det.
do a compression test just to be sure. i got 25psi from the offending one

just an idea, ian.
Old 19 September 2002, 08:52 PM
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Dan - what makes you say the O2 sensor ??

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Old 19 September 2002, 09:39 PM
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His car was using loads of petrol, and was not idling well...

Increased fuel consumtion can be related to a broken o2 sensor, and poor idle control...

See here:

http://www.bondauto.com/templates/sc...?article_id=20


What Can Go Wrong:

"The result is poor driveability, manifested by one or more of the following symptoms: decreased fuel economy, hesitation on acceleration, stalling, surging, rough idle, and increased tailpipe emissions (with a likely failure of emissions tests, where mandated)."
Old 19 September 2002, 10:59 PM
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I had this on MY 99, they won't see it on the Select unless they are very switched on. Mine had the same symptoms. Replaced the O2 and after a few days it sorted itself. Fit a new one and ECU reset.

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Old 19 September 2002, 11:36 PM
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Agreed, lambda (O2) sensor is the best bet here.
Old 20 September 2002, 03:30 AM
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<nod nod> O2 sensor.

Some dealers over here miss it too sometimes (not mine thankfully).
Old 20 September 2002, 07:56 AM
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dhorwich, thanks for the explanation

I see that it goes into the exhaust right near the turbo, thought I would go have a look as I am trying to learn a bit.

shunty

[Edited by shunty - 9/20/2002 8:00:51 AM]
Old 20 September 2002, 09:44 AM
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Thanks for all the help guys.

Going in tomorrow morning so will ask them about the O2 sensor.

I did have the 02 sensor replaced about 5 months ago. Looks like this is going to be a regular expense

Andy
Old 20 September 2002, 09:47 AM
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By the way the car is compleatly standard at present but will be going for a PE PowerPack 1 in the next couple of months.

Thanks again
Old 23 September 2002, 01:29 PM
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Had O2 sensor replaced on saturday and the symtoms went for a bit but are now back.

Anymore ideas guys..........
Old 23 September 2002, 01:40 PM
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You gave them £100 for the MAF? Theyre usually £300 to replace. U sure they fixed it properly? Or maybe they just replaced the sensors?
Old 23 September 2002, 01:48 PM
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'1,000,000 to one long shot' but could be 'throttle position sensor'.

Had same problem with mine ater MAF sensor replaced and O2 sensor replaced. Stil idled between 200 and 1000rpm but was constantly searching so took the car for a long (70 mile) drive with as much driving as possible being done at very low revs in 5th gear to help help the ECU readjust to what was going on....

Sorted the prob completely
Old 24 September 2002, 02:31 PM
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Hey boy - I think you know the answer here upgrade to a nice P1 and let the good times roll.

I hear your in for a good month !!
Old 25 September 2002, 11:59 AM
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Bioforger-

Sorry. As you said was'nt MAF just sensor/s

SiPie-

Thanks for that i'll give it a try

Northernmadbugger-

Go find me a P1 then you muppet
Old 25 September 2002, 07:00 PM
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do you live in scotland by any chance
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No mate exciled to the south but you never forget your roots.....
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