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Old 18 August 2002, 12:02 PM
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i bought a quick shift from japinnovasions, tried to fit it but it just wasnt going on.
the selecter rod was jammed against the chassis

i email jap innovasions
and he said i have to bend the chassis up slightly.

no way, i tried bending it up a bit and still it was tight up there and really hard to shift gears

recently took a quick shift stick off my mates sti, its slightly different but all the measurments are same. so im not gunna bother putting it on as i know it will be the same problem.

need to send this jap innov' one back. if he will reply to my emils

any1 have a pic of a quick shift that they have on their my93 wrx ??
then i can compare them with the ones i have

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Old 18 August 2002, 01:20 PM
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Can you compare both original lever and new lever to see the differences?
The bracket on the lever is only about 1/2" difference in position so shouldn't have any problems with clearance on the car.

The only thing i'm not sure of though, is differences in tunnel between the model years if any.

Alan
Old 18 August 2002, 04:30 PM
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here is a piccy of the 2
the STi 5 quickshift on the left and the one from jap innov' on the right.



both look to be the same measurments in all respects.
Old 18 August 2002, 04:32 PM
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I would send that back. you can easily have your OEM gear thing modded (lower that ball thing with a press) to make it a shorter travel.
Old 18 August 2002, 04:39 PM
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what do you mean by lower the ball thing
Old 18 August 2002, 04:47 PM
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You say the one on the left is from an STI5 but the lever from the later cars(after MY97 is different) Does your std lever look like the ones in the picture?
All that changes is the pivot point on the lever. (The distance between the pivot and the ball is lengthened slightly!!)

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Old 18 August 2002, 04:50 PM
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I mean put that gear lever vertically in a press where it is held firmly and then press the ball thinggy (that round thing at the top) down by pressing on its sides (not on top, that would lower the whole gear lever). This will act as a short shift, or should (it's like that on other cars and shouldnt differ much on yours).

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Old 18 August 2002, 04:52 PM
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Or up, if that is the actual position of it (the pic). You get the idea: by changing the position of that round thing, you play on the gear lever travel.
Old 18 August 2002, 05:06 PM
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Claudius,
The ball has a roll pin though it!! So all you need to do is drill a hole further up the lever and move it up, then chop off the bit that now sticks out below the ball. This should shorten the throw but will also shorten the lever!!

Usually you move the pivot point (the bracket halfway up). This means the lever stays the same length but the throw is reduced!!!
That's how the Jap inov annd STI levers work

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Old 18 August 2002, 05:14 PM
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As I said, not sure about this particular model...

You should be able to tell what to move by looking at the OEM and shorter version. And then modify your OEM and send the short shift back
Old 18 August 2002, 05:28 PM
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the thing is i said it was for a my93 wrx when i ordered it, but it clearly dont fit.
i cant be arsed modifying the lever
this is why i bought it

ill email him again
Old 18 August 2002, 05:31 PM
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altho if the ball is moved up slightly, then the bracket will come down also.
but will this still work ???
and how much should be taken off the lever so the ball can be moved up a bit ???

and will it still work in the same way ??

thanks for all ya help guys
Old 18 August 2002, 05:32 PM
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Is your std lever the same style?
Old 18 August 2002, 05:37 PM
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You would need to compare your std lever with the Jap/STI one and work out why the lever was hitting the chassis and cut it to fit round the problem.

I've not done this! I bought a Jap Inov one for my 97 (different style to yours).
Old 18 August 2002, 06:27 PM
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you jap innov is different to the one on the right ???

obviously they sent me the wrong one then
y am i busting my ***** over this
i should just send it back and get another
Old 18 August 2002, 06:48 PM
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I though you where supposed to leave the ball at the end and remove the point where the pivot is... in this case the metal part with two sides to it just under half way up the shifter.... you remove this say with a grinder then move it up the shifter slightly and re-weld it....

I think dave wallis covered this somewhere in his FMIC projects thread....

DAVE26,

From the pic it shows that they have sent you the quick shift for the newer cars.... as the older ones are different... ie your jap innovations one is the same as the sti 5 one which is a newer model


Dan

[Edited by dhorwich - 8/18/2002 6:51:09 PM]
Old 18 August 2002, 06:54 PM
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thanks
ill send it back
Old 18 August 2002, 07:13 PM
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looking at the pictures....you have the correct lever for 93-96 models.
sorry to add confusion
Old 18 August 2002, 07:20 PM
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damn
but the one on the left is from a my99 sti.
and teh jap innov one will not go on my car full stop ?!?!?

damn

[Edited by DAVE26 - 8/18/2002 7:22:03 PM]
Old 18 August 2002, 07:42 PM
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as far as i am aware the difference between pre 96 levers and later ones,is the way they are connected to the selector shaft.

where,on the early lever you have the "fork"attachment.
later versions have that bit on the selector shaft...ie the fittings are reversed.

based upon my trials and tribulations after being sent a wrong quickshift



Old 18 August 2002, 09:01 PM
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just a suggestion.
I've fitted a quiksshift to a 00 scooby. I dont if your car has the same chassis but under the console that you have to remove to loosen the bolt that holds the selector shaft, there is a small square mat (probably sound proofing), remove this and you will see a rectangle bracket screwed to the floor, this bracket in the 'Chassis' that your meeting, I bet it is restricting selection of 1st and 3rd. if so take of this plate and get out your file and start filing. keep filing til the bracket is clearing the bracket. This is what I had to do....
And afterall that I've concidered moving the ball aswell to lengthen the thro a small bit and hope it wouldnt be as stiff, but I've got used to it know.
Hope its some help
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Old 18 August 2002, 10:43 PM
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ive already tried that m8
still with no joy
Old 18 August 2002, 10:54 PM
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I had to remove a fair amount of metal to get it to clear the selector. As you siad it doesnt work I go for moving the ball up ( towards the U bracket) Which inturn lowers the height that the selector has to raise to meet your new gear stick
Best of luck
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Old 19 August 2002, 06:05 PM
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the good man down at jap innovations said he will sort it out for me
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