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Old 01 February 2007, 06:39 PM
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Default OMG just had car back from TSL !!

Well what a day. Set off at 6am yesterday for a 2.5 hr drive to Nottingham to see the boys at TSL.

Arrived and saw Jon there who put the kettle on after our drive!, how nice. Talked me through what was going to be done to my car and the power, i must say very impressed. There workshop is amazing, very tidy, you can just wonder around and look at there demo cars or customer cars, it's great.

I had booked in for the TSL 333 conversion, which was the panel filter, fuel pump, full group N exhaust sytem and sports cat, and the remap.

Must have taken only 3 hours to do all the hardware, they then took out for about another hours for the remap.

When they returned and all finished, the owner took me out and my friend for a blast, OMG.


I could not believe how powerful the car is now it pulls so hard from just over 3000rpm all the way to 6500rpm, i was so blown away. He then let me have a go, and again i was shocked, just seemed toooo fast in 1st, 2 nd OMG, 3RD OMG, 4TH OMG, 5TH OMG, Even 6th was outstanding.

The owner really liked my car, it should be for only 9500 miles, this is the best £1600+vat i have ever spent!. I would recommend to anyone with a 2003-sti, super cool. I am going back there shortly to have the new headers and get them ceramic coated, they said it should be just over 350 bhp and torque to match, that was £1000 fitted.

Also just received my 18's Gunmetal Inovit wheels, but still need toyo tyres, can anyone recommend the cheapest place. Will post all the pics i took soon.

Thanks again and to TSL.
Old 01 February 2007, 06:42 PM
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Wouldn't it be better to so all the mods on one go before the remap?
Old 01 February 2007, 06:45 PM
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Wouldn't it be better to so all the mods on one go before the remap?

Money !!!!
Old 01 February 2007, 06:50 PM
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So you're not going to feel the full benefit then?

Well, not unless you pay for another remap anyway.
Old 01 February 2007, 07:11 PM
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Additional remap shouldn't cost that much as the Ecutek (I assume thats what they map with) license is paid for, just mappers time, if they have left sufficient headroom in the first map it should just be a tweak rather than a new base map build.

Depends if it's worth the extra to you for just 20bhp more.
Old 01 February 2007, 07:21 PM
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Was your car standard? or did it have PPP?

What was the BHP figure before ? afterwards?

Cheers
Old 01 February 2007, 07:59 PM
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Glad you like you car now

re tyres, have a look at the Michelin PS2 at Costco. iirc they are still doing 4 at 20% off (l/p is £137 ish) & they are the best wet / dry tyre imho by far.

Also, re the headers, have a look at Zen Performance, he does a nice stainless set wrapped for around £350 I believe + fitting. I would recomend them & Zen without hesitation

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Old 01 February 2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ProdriveSTI
Was your car standard? or did it have PPP?

What was the BHP figure before ? afterwards?

Cheers
Had my 03 STi PPP re-mapped there by Richard Bulmer, nothing else, just a re-map. Just over 300bhp on Power Engineerings rollers with PPP, 341 with the re-map. Torque went up 20lbft.
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Old 01 February 2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ProdriveSTI
Was your car standard? or did it have PPP?

What was the BHP figure before ? afterwards?

Cheers
It must have been standard, otherwise it wouldn't have required the fuel pump or sports cat, had it been PPP.
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give it a few months and you'll be bored of the 333 pack...............then 380 bhp beckons and so on. 18G turbo next!!!

Enjoy
Old 01 February 2007, 10:43 PM
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cheap tyres - mytyres.co.uk - Tyres for PASSENGER CARs cheap, bargains, look + save
Old 01 February 2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RLE
give it a few months and you'll be bored of the 333 pack...............then 380 bhp beckons and so on. 18G turbo next!!!

Enjoy
Goto agree there, im just over the 380bhp in a classic and i would love to get it over the 400 mark
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Glad you like it mate,and also glad you noticed the difference.

As said on your last thread about you considering the 333,it is one of the options i am considering when i (eventually)get my STI PPP hopefully next week,so it's good to see positive feedback about the conversion .
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RLE’s car pulls like a train!
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Micheldever tyres nr Andover is close to you.
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Originally Posted by RMA26
RLE’s car pulls like a train!
only once a month these days.

Paul2070 - money permitting the DIY tuning route is a better option if you are looking for smiles per bucks. I found my 333 pack a little "tame" tbh and wasn't too impressed......

IMHO of course
Old 02 February 2007, 02:01 PM
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i loved my car with 333 decat much better with chargecooler,graham the boss is quite a nippy driver isnt he!
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Originally Posted by RLE
only once a month these days.

Paul2070 - money permitting the DIY tuning route is a better option if you are looking for smiles per bucks. I found my 333 pack a little "tame" tbh and wasn't too impressed......

IMHO of course

So what have you had done to yours then mate,and how much power/torque is it running??
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Originally Posted by ProdriveSTI
Was your car standard? or did it have PPP?

What was the BHP figure before ? afterwards?

Cheers


Hi yeah my sti was standard 265 bhp, and afterwards it was 334 bhp with torque to match, car has done 9800 miles so pulls very nicely, far better pack than PPP IN MY OPINION, you get almost 30bhp more!

Cheers Alex
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Originally Posted by sti_ppp
Hi yeah my sti was standard 265 bhp, and afterwards it was 334 bhp with torque to match, car has done 9800 miles so pulls very nicely, far better pack than PPP IN MY OPINION, you get almost 30bhp more!

Cheers Alex
A bloody good improvement then for how much?
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Originally Posted by paul2070
A bloody good improvement then for how much?

£1800 all in
Old 02 February 2007, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sti_ppp
£1800 all in

TBH i have spoken to TSL,Powerstation,Alan Jeffries,Andy Forrest,Roger Clarke and WRC Tech and all say that even with the PPP the STI's only run between 270-290bhp so that is either an indication that the STI's as standard don't even run the 265 they are meant to,or that the PPP is pretty worthless as far as performance gains go,so either way you are looking at 80bhp for £1800 which i think is fair especially if the overall driveability has been improved so much.
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Originally Posted by paul2070
So what have you had done to yours then mate,and how much power/torque is it running??
Quote Of one of RLE's previous posts below

Originally Posted by RLE
20G turbo may just make 400bhp with supporting mods. 380 - 390 is more realistic.

I went for an 18G in the end and sold the 20G. Better mid range than the 20 although the latter will have better top end/ higher power figures on the rollers.

Ecutek map will be fine. My 53 plate sti was mapped by Bob Rawle and consists of:

3" decat exhaust
RCM downpipe
Harvey Smith up pipe and ported headers (wrapped)
Fuel pump
Andy Forrest 18G turbo
80mm RCM K&N filter
Uprated spark plugs
3 port boost solenoid

Running 1.45 boost and delta dash shows car running approx 390bhp/ 350lbs torque. Lag not an issue, mid range punch awesome. Standard sti injectors and top mount still in situ.

Next mods would be FMIC but decided too much outlay for very small gains.

HTH
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Originally Posted by RLE
only once a month these days.
Indeed
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