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Hi, I'm looking to purchase the LRC 100 replacement - but which one is it ?

I', confused - anyone any experience. Checked the www.lidatek.co.uk website and it's not clear.

Ta

TRF

looking at that site i would says its the Lidatek LE-30 LaserEcho...about £380 on there..

Chelspeed

I agree.

The only thing that confuses me is that the LT400 which does the same thing but also can be used to control other stuff (this one really could be a garage door opener) is cheaper than the LE30. So what does the LE30 do that the LT400 doesn't?

Read the LT400 manual, priceless. FAQ - Does the LT400 respond to other IR lasers? Yes, even Police Laser guns as they emit on 904 nm but it shuts down after a few seconds (after warning you.....).

TRF

may be the LE-30 is more cos may be its smaller, and has that new box thing for conecting it up and is sold as a lazer defuser (sp) thing. TBH i didnt read anything for the LT400 so i might be totally wrong.

chris's scooby

I think that the replacement is the LT400 or LT450, something like that...

jaycee

This is my take on it.

1. The above website is misleading and in no way related to Lidatek the manufacturers of LaserEcho-30 and LaserTrack series products. www.lidatek.com is the correct site and is for the American market only.

2. Lidatek are an American company who sell these products into European distributors under the brand name "Target".

3. The LE30 is not a replacement for the Target LRC100, it is the U.S. equivalent- some have found their way into the country but it does exactly the same as the LRC.

4. The correct replacement for the LRC100 is the LT400. This is a standalone unit which will jam the signal from a speedgun. It is still questionable as to whether it is legal or not as per the LRC100.

5. To make everything above board and legal you can buy the LT450 which gives you the LT400 car system plus the LT430 home system which comprises of a circuit board and transponder to control outdoor lights, automatic gates/garage door etc.

If you need an LT450 PM me.


Jason

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It is indeed the LT400. This is the one they are using to replace any faulty LRC100s (like mine).

Bob

tuscan57

How come when you think about gettin something posts appear everywhere?????? think i may just buy one anyway! LT450 that is!

Granby

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And mine

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Did you send yours back to manufacturer or retailer?

Bob

Granby

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I sent it back to the retailer (the manufacturer don't like you sending them back to them) but it has taken about 2 months to sort out, i got a e-mail from Target this morning saying they are sending me a LT-400 directly to me

Aztec Performance Ltd

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I've been told its best to return it to the manufacturer in Holland.

Bob

jaycee

Granby, BOB'5 - what you need now is the LT430 to complete it and make it fully legal!


Jason

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Whats that all about then?

The LRC100 was legal to have fitted but not to use to interfere with police work.

How is LT430/450 different??

Granby

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Yes i was thinking about that, what sort of price is this unit (group buy anyone ), by the way i can reconmend Jaycee as i had good service when i bought a Origin b2 from him.

jaycee

The home system is £179.99.
I'll go and sort a GB out today or tomorrow!

Jason

jaycee

BOB'5- The LT becomes legal because you have a legitimate use for it ie activating lights etc. The LRC100 was legal to buy, sell and fit but it's sole purpose was to jam police speedguns which could leave you open to prosecution if caught using it for this purpose.

Jason

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Basically if you get caught using it and it can be proved (eg it shows up on camera footage) then you can be prosecuted. It makes no odds at all whether you have a legitimate use for it....therefore no advantage of having a LT430/450.

Bob

jaycee

I would disagree Bob, you have a legitimate use for it, it activates your outside lights, it just so happens it also disrupts speedguns. No court could possibly convict you of obstructing the police or perverting the course of justice as can happen with the LRC.
Catching you on camera speeding is completely different and has no relevance whether a jammer was used or not.

Jason

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I disagree. With the LRC you are highly unlikely to be prosecuted for using it, as the police will never really know that your using it....unless you really take the pi$$, which is not recommended anyway.

There have been cases of people going $camera vans and for the eagle eyed operator if he/she likes can go back through the footage and see that the signal was being jammed via the picture (the jammer emits a small light). In these circumstances (ie sucessfully jamming a $camera van) it is advisable that the jammer be removed as the police can impound your car and check it over for devices.

It makes no odds if you use the jammer to open your garage door etc. If you interfere with police work, your interfering with police work. There are no two ways about it.

Bob

jaycee

We both disagree!! No problem.
I would say it's like carrying a screwdriver in public- if you have no reason to be carrying it they can charge you with going equipped or carrying an offensive weapon.
The LT400 is a keyless remote control device for operating doors/gates etc if they see it or catch you using it without a reason they can then attempt to bring charges, (admittedly there have only been a couple of successful prosecutions so far) having the LT430 simply gives you the reason to have it fitted and active. The only way they can bring charges of obstruction or perverting is if the law is changed to ban devices using the same frequency as the gun.
I have sought extensive legal advice on both this and the LRC 100 and was advised at the time not to sell the LRC as it had no reasonable purpose other than to evade a speeding charge and if I must sell it to advertise it as a "garage door opener" see http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=328869
My solicitor assures me it would be virtually impossible to secure a prosecution against anyone using the new device so long as there was sufficient reason to have it.

Jason

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You cannot be charged if they just 'see it'. If you interfere with their signals then they can attempt to bring charges. Which is why I said that it makes no odds which device you use. You cannot have a reason for having your 'garage door opener' jamming their devices. They're not totally stupid.

I'm right and your wrong! just kidding.

Bob

jaycee

LOL!!
It's the motoring equivalent to going equipped!
I'll go have a word with my solicitor and say " Bob sez......."
How many shall I put you down for then eh??!!

I can see the point you're making and I'm using my solicitor as my defence in this argument, if he's wrong he's fired and you're hired!!

Jason

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cool. I get to charge you £250+vat per hour plus expenses for blabbing.

You already owe me ££££. Invoice is in the post

Bob

chris's scooby

PMSL

Vito

What about Distronic, or Nisan laser system or Lexus distance control sys. All this systems work on 904nm and can interfere with police laser gun but they are nevertheless factory installed in some car models. As far as I know the police all around the globe didnt purchase the exclusive IR band licence for their own use, instead the band is shared and anyone must accept the possibility that he will get interference from other legitimite IR band equipment. If the Police had specific licence for IR band on the outdoors it would be another thing all together but that is not feasable so forget it. The only thing for them to do is to prove in the court that you used the device sollely for purpose of jamming police guns. If they succed your are busted, If you prove them that you use it only for garage, distance control or etc. you are clear.

maxim

most camera van's don't know when they've been lazered, as a friend of mine found out when he was asking them some questions for an article he was doing.

He asked them if they'ed ever been lazered, which they replied to with a "no", he didn't tell them but he lazered them when he pulled up to speak to them.

I'm still sticking with me LE 30 - http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...highlight=le30