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Old 04 January 2014, 03:19 PM
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Was telling a mate about my new TV , and when I mentioned 3D and the fact that I dont have anything that "outputs" in 3D , it's a pointless feature for me at the moment. He told me that all I needed to do was activate my Sky 3D at no xtra cost. Just did it today and it works quite well. Now there are movies on the Sky 3D channel , but as I dont have the Movies package I assume I won't be able to watch them. Also , no matter what I am playing through the TV , I can push the 3D button and it "makes" it into 3D , but not as good as a dedicated source.

Now here is my question. My bluray player isnt 3D , so it wont play a 3D bluray. But how can my Sky box do it , and my TV can (kind of) make 2D into 3D , but I have to buy a new bluray player if I want to watch a 3D bluray disc ?

Now I know its a gimmick and most people don't rate it , but I'm a bit of a nerd and was just wondering. I won't be buying a new Bluray player anytime soon , but when HD first came out I got a bit carried away and got a HD ready TV before I heard of "full HD" , and I got an HD DVD player for my Xbox before Bluray took off , then I got my Bluray player and a ton of films when they were twice the price as now !
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Sky 3D is different it's SBS (side by side) 3D

If you view the sky 3D picture on a non 3D tv you. You Get two near enough identical picture in the screen SBS

Your blu ray player probably doesn't support hdmi 1.4

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As for your tv turning it to 3d it's just software doing it and IMO looks terrible
Old 04 January 2014, 05:56 PM
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There is only 1 channel afaik on sky that has 3d and not the best quality IMO compared to a bluray 3d player.
Just like the sky hd channels that only stream at 720i I belive unlike a hd player that will do the full 1080p and not 1080i which some people confuse which is not actually 'full' hd.

Not forgetting with 3d you have to wear glasses which is not my thing watching a film with apperatious on my head. (3d is good I would say, watched parrana 3d and I must say did love the underwater scenes but can't justify the hassle that comes with it tbh)

Good old fashion watching tv like a normal person with a good quality tv wins every time for me.

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Sky HD is 1080i , the 3D channel seems pretty good to me. Watched some Attenborough thing about dinosaurs , the CGi wasn't jumping out , but the real stuff was good. I watched Final destination 3d , it was on channel 4HD , I put my TV onto 3D mode and it didn't do much if anything at all ! I seen it in the cinema at the time and I remember it was brilliant , but the effort my TV made was pointless.

So basically I need a 3D bluray player to get any use of the TV ? I see there is a program i can buy for my laptop (has a Bluray drive) that says it does BD , 3D and 4k ! Suppose that's the next con . . . I mean latest tech . 4k looks cool , but some money !
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I will never think 3D at home is worth it,it only makes sense if you have a massive tv.SJ.
Old 04 January 2014, 07:37 PM
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You may recognise the username of this deal maker

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-5...-wi-fi-1769993

I'll test it on Thursday and report back what it's like

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Old 04 January 2014, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
I will never think 3D at home is worth it,it only makes sense if you have a massive tv.SJ.
Yeah , actually said that to the wife today.
Old 04 January 2014, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
You may recognise the username of this deal maker

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-5...-wi-fi-1769993

I'll test it on Thursday and report back what it's like

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At that price ? My tv alone cost more than that !
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
At that price ? My tv alone cost more than that !
Yes, came across it and posted it on hotukdeals to see if its any good, incredibly it is. Ok it has some minor flows, but for the money

Bluray player and 4 pairs of glasses was the deal breaker for me

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Old 04 January 2014, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
I will never think 3D at home is worth it,it only makes sense if you have a massive tv.SJ.
What do you deem as massive.... my main TV is 55" and 3D is still **** in all reality.

I was going to upgrade my projector to 3D (100" viewing screen at present).... but that REALLY would be a waste of cash.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
What do you deem as massive.... my main TV is 55" and 3D is still **** in all reality.

I was going to upgrade my projector to 3D (100" viewing screen at present).... but that REALLY would be a waste of cash.

About this size,That screen size would do nicely.SJ.
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I thought most of the people in the know had already stated 3D at home was dead and buried.
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3d at home is quality, i have both a telly and a projector and love them both. dont get me wrong i dont watch it all the time but a few times a week at least. space or underwater documentaries are great in 3d and animation really works well with it.
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Originally Posted by yabbadoo4
3d at home is quality, i have both a telly and a projector and love them both. dont get me wrong i dont watch it all the time but a few times a week at least. space or underwater documentaries are great in 3d and animation really works well with it.
Yeah , and anything that's deliberately 3D is good too , rather than just a normal film "made" into 3D. Some things just don't need to be 3D ( imo)
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
There is only 1 channel afaik on sky that has 3d and not the best quality IMO compared to a bluray 3d player.
Just like the sky hd channels that only stream at 720i I belive unlike a hd player that will do the full 1080p and not 1080i which some people confuse which is not actually 'full' hd.

Not forgetting with 3d you have to wear glasses which is not my thing watching a film with apperatious on my head. (3d is good I would say, watched parrana 3d and I must say did love the underwater scenes but can't justify the hassle that comes with it tbh)

Good old fashion watching tv like a normal person with a good quality tv wins every time for me.
Its 1080i split into 2 pictures 960x1080i which are deinterlaced by an active shutter TV to look like 1920x1080i (1920 is the horizontal resolution split into 2 halves by the screen the vertical ie 1080i is not touched).
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I personally find the quality of 3D and picture at home with my Panny ST50 which has Active glasses much better than at the cinema.
Old 06 January 2014, 03:05 PM
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The Playstation 3 also doubles up as a 3D bluray player, so you can play 3D games and watch 3D blurays through the one device. Worth a punt given how much they've come down in price now. 3D is certainly not dead and buried in our household.
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Unfortunately I'm an Xbox man , so no such luck !
Old 06 January 2014, 05:56 PM
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Already been posted...Go out and buy a 3D blueray player
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Agree good blue ray dvd great ,sky 3d not very good
Old 06 January 2014, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
You may recognise the username of this deal maker

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-5...-wi-fi-1769993

I'll test it on Thursday and report back what it's like

Rob

Who is it??

3d is really more of a gimmick as you sit there watching the film for only about three things actually worth watching in 3d in the film, I prefer to watch a normal blueray of the film as I don't have to keep my eyes fixed to the tv because of the glasses.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
What do you deem as massive.... my main TV is 55" and 3D is still **** in all reality.

I was going to upgrade my projector to 3D (100" viewing screen at present).... but that REALLY would be a waste of cash.

I wouldn't bother unless the 3d technology in the projectors has moved on, I have the 3d Optoma and I'm not that impressed with how it looks.
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Originally Posted by richie001
Already been posted...Go out and buy a 3D blueray player
Already got a bluray player , I'm not wasting cash getting getting a new one just for 3D if it's not up to much.
Old 07 January 2014, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
I personally find the quality of 3D and picture at home with my Panny ST50 which has Active glasses much better than at the cinema.
Really? I have a WT50 and found it headache-inducing and strobey as hell.

The only place I will willingly watch something in 3D is at an IMAX
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Yep, the quality of the 3D is outstanding IMHO. At the cinema being passive it always seems to me to be a bit blurry and shimmery round the edges.

Watching Prometheus on my ST (with official Panny 3D glasses) it was sharp and awesome!

Even my wife who is a complete technophobe agrees!
Old 07 January 2014, 01:54 PM
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Just bought these the tv is due to be delivered today and the blu-ray player in a day or so, I'm looking forward to experiencing this new stuff as we are still using old gear at the moment

http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/range/4k-tv

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/blu-ra...layer/bdp-s790
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Originally Posted by Beef
Really? I have a WT50 and found it headache-inducing and strobey as hell.

The only place I will willingly watch something in 3D is at an IMAX
I have the UT50 cheapest in the range but the best for 3D as it goes without the dimming screen filter.

If you want a huge 3D TV and also like gaming there are only 2 TV's currently on the market worth looking at. Those two are the SONY 905 and 805 models, with the all important Lag input down to negligible.

I run one of the best gaming TV's (UT50) but even at 40ms it's just too unresponsive for accurate sniping. Even on the rugby games I have to pass extra early.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I have the UT50 cheapest in the range but the best for 3D as it goes without the dimming screen filter.

If you want a huge 3D TV and also like gaming there are only 2 TV's currently on the market worth looking at. Those two are the SONY 905 and 805 models, with the all important Lag input down to negligible.

I run one of the best gaming TV's (UT50) but even at 40ms it's just too unresponsive for accurate sniping. Even on the rugby games I have to pass extra early.
Just run a lag switch to compensate
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Just spotted a setting on my xbox for 3d games , does this that mean I can stream LoveFilm though it to my TV ?


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