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12 June 2013, 12:20 AM
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That is pretty much what I said when I saw it "Oh, look, a new mini cylindrical trash can"
I'm sure some of the professionals who have the current generation of Mac Pro are shaking their heads. It's a radical (radial?) design, but I'm not totally convinced by it.
Wonder how quick Windows 8 is on it?
somehow I don't think our IT team will decide that I need that powerful a machine
I'm sure some of the professionals who have the current generation of Mac Pro are shaking their heads. It's a radical (radial?) design, but I'm not totally convinced by it.
Wonder how quick Windows 8 is on it?
somehow I don't think our IT team will decide that I need that powerful a machine
12 June 2013, 08:37 AM
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So funny. Post a thread on here with a huge, ugly, noisy box full of neon lights built just so you can turn up the settings on a game and the usual suspects will dribble, slap you on the back and congratulate you on your skillz. Apple redesign the PC and it's rubbish. You lot kill me.
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12 June 2013, 11:01 AM
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So funny. Post a thread on here with a huge, ugly, noisy box full of neon lights built just so you can turn up the settings on a game and the usual suspects will dribble, slap you on the back and congratulate you on your skillz. Apple redesign the PC and it's rubbish. You lot kill me.
12 June 2013, 01:49 PM
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This is suposedly a 'pro workstation', yet will only take 2, 6 core chips, we run twin 8 core chips.
memory bandwidth is good but no mention of how much, or if its expandable, we have some machines running 192gb of ram for high level modeling.
I can't figure out what graphics card its running, says 'twin firepro workstation class', but the 3 ports and 6gb dont tally in with any of the standard cards.
The info is pretty lmited as far as exact tech specs, but the biggest thing to note is the lack of 8 core support, it shows its outdated already and not running the latest gen of hardware or capable of supporting it.
12 June 2013, 01:54 PM
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I built it myself. It's one of these cases:
http://goo.gl/c74u8
Into it I have a uATX board, a Revo X2 PCIe flash drive, i7-2600K with a Zalman flower heatsink and a Gainward Phantom 3 GTX570.
In such a configuration the noise level is low - I can't say how low as I've never measured it, but low enough to be easily ignored while watching a film, even in the quiet sequences. The 360 Elite is noisier, and that's in an (open backed) cupboard.
I have spent many years witnessing the various bespoke board designs that server manufacturers come up with in order to cram the maximum amount of capability into a 1U rack-mount chassis, so this to me is just another bespoke board arrangement designed to fit the constraints of a case design.
I find something like this more impressive: http://goo.gl/eEJ3u - 3 x GPUs, dual redundant PSUs, dual 10Gb networking, 2 sockets supporting up to 16 cores and up to 256GB/RAM - all designed to run flat-out, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for at least 3 years in temps up to 35C and 90% humidity in a 1U rack form factor.
Or this: http://goo.gl/apkVa - 4 sockets, 32 cores (40 cores if you go for the E7 variant), hardware RAID, 10Gb networking and up to 1TB of memory, all again in a 1U form factor.
I'm not saying what they have done is rubbish - I'm just saying doing something like this isn't particularly new, and it's a bit of a stretch to say they've 'redesigned the PC' when people have been doing similar things in the business sector for years.
http://goo.gl/c74u8
Into it I have a uATX board, a Revo X2 PCIe flash drive, i7-2600K with a Zalman flower heatsink and a Gainward Phantom 3 GTX570.
In such a configuration the noise level is low - I can't say how low as I've never measured it, but low enough to be easily ignored while watching a film, even in the quiet sequences. The 360 Elite is noisier, and that's in an (open backed) cupboard.
I have spent many years witnessing the various bespoke board designs that server manufacturers come up with in order to cram the maximum amount of capability into a 1U rack-mount chassis, so this to me is just another bespoke board arrangement designed to fit the constraints of a case design.
I find something like this more impressive: http://goo.gl/eEJ3u - 3 x GPUs, dual redundant PSUs, dual 10Gb networking, 2 sockets supporting up to 16 cores and up to 256GB/RAM - all designed to run flat-out, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for at least 3 years in temps up to 35C and 90% humidity in a 1U rack form factor.
Or this: http://goo.gl/apkVa - 4 sockets, 32 cores (40 cores if you go for the E7 variant), hardware RAID, 10Gb networking and up to 1TB of memory, all again in a 1U form factor.
I'm not saying what they have done is rubbish - I'm just saying doing something like this isn't particularly new, and it's a bit of a stretch to say they've 'redesigned the PC' when people have been doing similar things in the business sector for years.
12 June 2013, 03:24 PM
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I'm not offended - taste is subjective after all. My missus said that if we were having a PC in the living room she didn't want a boring case, and she liked the 'Orchidee' from the Isotope range. She was the one actually screwing it together so she got the say on the case!
Made the build more interesting too as I had to balance not just components that were quiet and performant, but also physically small enough to fit everything in. We have literally <1mm clearance at some points, and even had to send the first PSU back for one that was 10mm shorter. I'm a bit miffed that the Gainward Phantom 770 GTX is 5mm wider as it means I can't replace the 570 with one of those
We rigged the Xbox wireless receiver into it, so with the handle it means I just unplug power/network/HDMI, carry move it upstairs and plug into the waiting power/network/HDMI cable on the telly in the bedroom and keep playing while in bed. Steam Big Picture means I rarely need to bother even turning on the wireless keyboard/mouse now.
Basically, I've turned it into a console, but one that can also play 'proper' games like Civ and other mouse-driven ones.
Made the build more interesting too as I had to balance not just components that were quiet and performant, but also physically small enough to fit everything in. We have literally <1mm clearance at some points, and even had to send the first PSU back for one that was 10mm shorter. I'm a bit miffed that the Gainward Phantom 770 GTX is 5mm wider as it means I can't replace the 570 with one of those
We rigged the Xbox wireless receiver into it, so with the handle it means I just unplug power/network/HDMI, carry move it upstairs and plug into the waiting power/network/HDMI cable on the telly in the bedroom and keep playing while in bed. Steam Big Picture means I rarely need to bother even turning on the wireless keyboard/mouse now.
Basically, I've turned it into a console, but one that can also play 'proper' games like Civ and other mouse-driven ones.
12 June 2013, 08:18 PM
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I really like the design of it. I've been looking for a small form factor media PC for ages to build and this concept is really neat. Not looking forward to the price though.
That and the specs are so general it might as well just say it's got some bits in it.
That and the specs are so general it might as well just say it's got some bits in it.
12 June 2013, 08:56 PM
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They say how much faster they are than the last Mac, and those are impressive.
I did think the system builders might like it, easily upgradable, great socket access, incredible cooling no doubt.
The case looks like nothing else, and functions like nothing else.
I did think the system builders might like it, easily upgradable, great socket access, incredible cooling no doubt.
The case looks like nothing else, and functions like nothing else.
13 June 2013, 09:09 PM
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I'm actually impressed by it. Let's be honest, the outgoing Mac Pro is a bit of a big ole dinosaur. Not surprising, as the chassis is based on the old G5.
I think it'll be really good. BUT it WILL be expensive.
I think it'll be really good. BUT it WILL be expensive.
13 June 2013, 09:24 PM
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Not so sure it's that easily upgradable. I don't like the idea of thunderbolting everything to it, I'd rather have everything inside the case. Socket access is nothing special really.
Cooling looks like a really cool design, that's the part that stands out for me. I don't know if it will actually work that well but it certainly looks like it should.
13 June 2013, 10:33 PM
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This one has to work, the cube wasn't exactly loved. Design classic though. Bear that in mind before trotting out "not on Steve's watch" bull****.
15 June 2013, 07:50 PM
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Its a nice design making the best out of the space it has (remembering its less than 10 inches tall and 6.6 inches wide), not overkeen on the E5 chips though but its not a home pc and i would hate to see the cost, the e5 chips are not cheap but it will suit some people.
A lot will buy it because its Apple, if you were upgrading from an old mac pro i doubt you would go far wrong with this
A lot will buy it because its Apple, if you were upgrading from an old mac pro i doubt you would go far wrong with this
