CharlySkunkWeed

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........then what the hell is a UP ?

Missus is looking at new mobiles and a few have the camera rated in "UP"s rather than "MP"s and i have no idea if a 1.2UP camera is any good !


Edit - its an UltraPixel , aperently (at least i can Google it now)

tarmac terror

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Its marketing garbage really...

It stands for ultrapixel - basically larger pixels, with the theory that each pixel will capture more light.

Really winds me up to hear folks who dont know any better claiming how good any camera is based solely on the number of megapixels it boasts. Its as though the lens, image processor and metering are all irrelevant!!

CharlySkunkWeed

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Well im the household nerd and expected to know what this means . . . . .but i dont have an answer ! It seems to be an HTC thing.

She wants to know if a 1.2 UP camera is any good , i just said yes !

Saint AAI

The HTC One is the only phone I know of with "Ultra Pixels". It's an HTC marketing name as TT says, but looks to be a good camera for a phone. It's a 4MP (ultrapixel) sensor.

andy97

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There will be plenty of reviews comparing the latest 13meg pixel against the HTC One 4 megapixel ultra sensor, they will usually compare it to old apple specs aswell to show how technology jumps forward

hux309

Reviews need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

It's essentially a 4mp sensor but with larger pixels, which translates to better low light performance, and better details, but at a cost of resolution.

Plus any issues are being ironed out with the new firmware.

Trouble was, htc handed out beta handsets hence why reviews are hit and miss.

It's a cracking phone, and my first htc as all previous phones were samsung.

I love it to bits.

I feel samsung missed the boat with the gs4.

CharlySkunkWeed

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So take it as a 1.2 UP camera as a 4MP ?

hux309

No it's still a 4mp camera just the pixels on the sensor are larger, so will pick up more light.

Bit like comparing a compact to a dslr.

They can share the same mp, but the dslr would have a much larger sensor and lens
thus produce better results.

It's htc's attempt to get away from the megapixel myth.

Don't forget most phone pics are done in low light environments, this is where the htc shines.

CharlySkunkWeed

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But its a 1.2UP camera ? Isnt that a bit keek even in any currency in this day and age !

mickywrx

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More megapixels doesn't necessarily mean better pictures.

My old phone with it's 2MP camera, took better pictures that my current phone with a 5MP camera.

CharlySkunkWeed

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I give up .

mickywrx

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It's a skull ****, isn't it.

hux309

Your not getting it, megapixel refers to the number of pixels the sensor has.

What htc did was make each pixel bigger than your average camera phone.

So it's still a 4mp camera but it's the same size as a 13mp sensor.

This means despite your pics being lower res, the larger pixels take in more light
meaning more detail and better low light performance.

Not sure I can dumb it down more than that.

hux309

http://m.gizmodo.com/5985348/what-is-an-ultrapixel

CharlySkunkWeed

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I am pretty techy , i know what you are saying , i understand the relation of MPs/UPs etc . But you said that a 1.2 UP = 4MP , then you said its a 4MP with a sensor of a 13MP camera. You have to admit thats confusing (in the way that its hard to compare with anything , not that its hard to understand the principle)

I already read that link you posted after i started this thread (googled UltraPixel) but still dont reall understand TBH.

All i need to know is what it compares to , and as megapixel is the norm , thats all i can ask really

riiidaa

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all you need to do is spend five min taking photos in a shop with two devices and then see which one pisses you off the least

hux309

Never said anything about 1.2up

As for comparisons it's tricky results wise it bests all bar the nokia 808 pureview.

Just have a play with one, my galaxy nexus was a nightmare for snaps.

The htc is in another league. Other top end cameras come close, better in some but you'll always find that's in ideal situations or repeated shots were taken.

Htc provide the most consistent, using a fast shutter speed and ois.

CharlySkunkWeed

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Dont mind if its great , just as long as its not rubbish

hux309

Oh no it's up there with the best.

Certainly the best all rounder I've used.

And take any reviews with a pinch of salt, as most are biased anyway.

Just look on xda for example. Soon as it was released, plenty of new accounts signed on and did nothing but slate it.

Apparently samsung are well known for using shill accounts to discredit a competitor.

riiidaa

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andy97

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Gsmarena had quite a comprehensive review of the HTC One and Samsung S4. The camera review had the S4 ahead in quality but took smaller field of view images. However both these phones have very good performance-pays your money take.............

hux309

Gsm arena reviews are heavily biased, and poor at best..

Hang fire for the anandtech review, they should make a decent job of it.

CharlySkunkWeed

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FYI i am not looking at a top of the range phone , the missus needs a new phone and she asked me what UPs were , so any mobile comparisons you are making are irrevilent ! Just a camera comparison is needed .

Thanks for the help

hux309

Furry muff, doesn't help my posting from the phone, pita having to explain things through it.