A bad Apple ?
14 January 2013, 05:34 PM
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A bad Apple ?
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/01/...phone-5-parts/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21014987
Over to Jack, Apple's UK spin doctor.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21014987
Over to Jack, Apple's UK spin doctor.
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14 January 2013, 05:50 PM
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A victim of their own hype, the phones are overpriced as compared to similar top end phones. With everyone watching their spend phones don't really top people's must have list.
I heard apple were going to bring out a cheaper version? Probably trying to catch some of the budget market although I doubt a cheaper phone will be much of a budget phone if its made by them.
I heard apple were going to bring out a cheaper version? Probably trying to catch some of the budget market although I doubt a cheaper phone will be much of a budget phone if its made by them.
14 January 2013, 06:34 PM
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I'm no business expert but i'd say that falling 50% short of your projected sales target is pretty poor.
Maybe people have realised that you can get better value and better performance elsewhere for less money.
Maybe people have realised that you can get better value and better performance elsewhere for less money.
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14 January 2013, 06:47 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20942231
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14 January 2013, 08:08 PM
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This was from July last year, it just shows the point, so if Samsung are reporting recent record profits then the bulk of that is coming from its mobile business.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...r-Samsung.html
No he doesn't. Your comment is classic JC fanboy material. Most of the time he comes across as a complete bellend imo. Although I must admit i like to bite just for the hell of it 
14 January 2013, 09:22 PM
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Yeh i know, but 60% of Samsung's profits comes from its mobile business.
This was from July last year, it just shows the point, so if Samsung are reporting recent record profits then the bulk of that is coming from its mobile business.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...r-Samsung.html
This was from July last year, it just shows the point, so if Samsung are reporting recent record profits then the bulk of that is coming from its mobile business.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...r-Samsung.html
These are two different things.
When they are giving the phones out free on £26 month contract it's a no brainier to the general public who don't care about phones
15 January 2013, 05:08 PM
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the fact that they change there devices nearly twice a year has pissed me off.
I wont buy anything more until the Ipad 5 drops, my Ipad 2 is still going strong, and the benefits of a new one just doesnt warrant it.
a few guys at work have the 5 and don't rate it, very buggy, screen jittering Bluetooth stack **** with new cars.
lets see if they slash there prices.
I wont buy anything more until the Ipad 5 drops, my Ipad 2 is still going strong, and the benefits of a new one just doesnt warrant it.
a few guys at work have the 5 and don't rate it, very buggy, screen jittering Bluetooth stack **** with new cars.
lets see if they slash there prices.
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Yeh but the providers still have to pay Samsung for them, Samsung don't give them out for free to mobile phone providers and they will be making good profit on every phone, thats called business.
22 January 2013, 02:05 PM
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I have a guess and say that the reduction in orders will have something to do with this:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/could-iphon...131000815.html
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/could-iphon...131000815.html
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Thats what apple fans were saying when the iphone 5 was about to be released, the excitement didn't last long when it wasn't much of an upgrade from the 4S and wasn't as good as some of the market leaders phones.
By the time the new apple phone comes out its market rivals will have moved on again with better technology leaving the new iphone behind again, similar with what happened with the iphone 5.
By the time the new apple phone comes out its market rivals will have moved on again with better technology leaving the new iphone behind again, similar with what happened with the iphone 5.
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Even the branding is fooked up. Yea i know it wont be called that Jack, but what a ridiculous name to even come up with. Talk about blinkered, no wonder the products are crappy.
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Typically suppliers don't get to know about device names ahead of time. Most people inside Apple don't know the name of the device until it's announced.
It would be worth having a read of Daring Fireball, as it does tend to have rather good information on it. For example, it does make mention of the whole situation regarding Apple cutting back orders on parts for the iPhone 5, plus, of course, the rumors surrounding the new larger iPhone.
One good snippet is that in all the info about this rumoured device, actual pixel dimensions of the screen are not mentioned. If someone knows the size, they should also know this. And this information is crucial as it will dictate how much work needs to be done to get an app to use the new size. The iPad mini is the same as the non-retina iPad, so that's ok (a few hit zones on buttons might need to be tweaked, but probably not too much else needed to change).
Non-retina to retina was a big change, you're doubling the size and so there is a fair bit of work invalided. iPhone 5 also required some work, but thankfully not as much as the transition from non retina to retina.
It would be a very short timeframe for Apple to release another display, and if it does not match any existing pixel dimensions for the device range it's quite a lot of extra work, plus app sizes would increase as you'd need graphic assets in yet another size.
I could see the iPhone 6 having a different display size, as that is likely to be next year, unless we're getting a 5S now and a six later in the year, but that's a very short cycle and would seriously **** people off, the 3rd to 4th gen iPad switch was quick, but that I think was more to do with wanting to get all current devices on lightning connectors and also gave a chance to speed bump a product, as I don't think they could just have a new 3rd gen with just a different dock connector, people would want to just swap the device, whereas if there is a performance upgrade and other tweaks then it's somewhat better.
It would be worth having a read of Daring Fireball, as it does tend to have rather good information on it. For example, it does make mention of the whole situation regarding Apple cutting back orders on parts for the iPhone 5, plus, of course, the rumors surrounding the new larger iPhone.
One good snippet is that in all the info about this rumoured device, actual pixel dimensions of the screen are not mentioned. If someone knows the size, they should also know this. And this information is crucial as it will dictate how much work needs to be done to get an app to use the new size. The iPad mini is the same as the non-retina iPad, so that's ok (a few hit zones on buttons might need to be tweaked, but probably not too much else needed to change).
Non-retina to retina was a big change, you're doubling the size and so there is a fair bit of work invalided. iPhone 5 also required some work, but thankfully not as much as the transition from non retina to retina.
It would be a very short timeframe for Apple to release another display, and if it does not match any existing pixel dimensions for the device range it's quite a lot of extra work, plus app sizes would increase as you'd need graphic assets in yet another size.
I could see the iPhone 6 having a different display size, as that is likely to be next year, unless we're getting a 5S now and a six later in the year, but that's a very short cycle and would seriously **** people off, the 3rd to 4th gen iPad switch was quick, but that I think was more to do with wanting to get all current devices on lightning connectors and also gave a chance to speed bump a product, as I don't think they could just have a new 3rd gen with just a different dock connector, people would want to just swap the device, whereas if there is a performance upgrade and other tweaks then it's somewhat better.
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24 January 2013, 12:09 AM
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I don't have an iPhone 5 and I don't see upgrading a phone at 2 years old as excessive, it will be the only phone that uses iOS, which is a must, and it will be an amazing device, what do you suggest I do?