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Old 25 August 2012, 05:22 AM
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Default Samsung Guilty of copying Apple.

Over a billion in compensation should sting a bit. Now all you Samsung using Apple haters know that you're basically using an Apple product, that must feel nice.
Old 25 August 2012, 09:06 AM
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This is bad news for consumers
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didnt take long!

maybe its apple using samsung products, well a lot of apple products are made using samsung components.......

I wonder if the case was heard in S Korea if the outcome would be different......
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Not bad news for consumers at all. Nothing will change other than some of the profit Samsung made going to it's rightful earner.
Old 25 August 2012, 07:30 PM
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Hadn't heard about this. Link???

1 Billion?!!? They could almost use that to cover the losses made on this beauty!



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Originally Posted by JackClark
Over a billion in compensation should sting a bit. Now all you Samsung using Apple haters know that you're basically using an Apple product, that must feel nice.
but it works better and was cheaper
and you dont have to be a fan boy **** to own one
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Jack you should try and read the detail before posting just the headlines.

The court disallowed evidence(will be shown in a appeal court) which would of demonstrated that the galaxy range was created before the iphone release.

The jury ignored the Judges instructions and decided what they wanted to do

It took the jury only 21 hours to deliberate 700 questions

Disregarded prior art evidence as it bogged down their deliberations- wanted to get home for the weekend

contradictory summing up of their judgement, mistakes were made

Interviews with some of the jury gave contradictory comments, and were misled by the foreman.

Foreman wanted to punish Samsung with a sufficiently high fine and not award penalty based on what apple allegedly lost

There was so much wrong with the whole court case and jury that Samsung will have plenty to go with on appeal
Old 26 August 2012, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
but it works better and was cheaper
and you dont have to be a fan boy **** to own one
if anyone is showing fanboi behaviour it would be you.
Old 26 August 2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Jack you should try and read the detail before posting just the headlines.

The court disallowed evidence(will be shown in a appeal court) which would of demonstrated that the galaxy range was created before the iphone release.

The jury ignored the Judges instructions and decided what they wanted to do

It took the jury only 21 hours to deliberate 700 questions

Disregarded prior art evidence as it bogged down their deliberations- wanted to get home for the weekend

contradictory summing up of their judgement, mistakes were made

Interviews with some of the jury gave contradictory comments, and were misled by the foreman.

Foreman wanted to punish Samsung with a sufficiently high fine and not award penalty based on what apple allegedly lost

There was so much wrong with the whole court case and jury that Samsung will have plenty to go with on appeal
Yup, Man never set foot on the moon, Building 7 was a controlled demolition and Samsung didn't copy Apple.

Tin hats at the ready.
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samsung fined by a Californian court....

the Koreans think a little differently !!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...s-8079528.html
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Originally Posted by albob
samsung fined by a Californian court....

the Koreans think a little differently !!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...s-8079528.html
So do customers

http://omgdroid.com/samsung-galaxy-s...trial-verdict/

The irony is that the products that might be banned are old products anyway, it is like Samsung getting a ban on an Iphone 3gs.

As for Apple being copied... yeah right...

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who cares, it a mobile phone................................yawn
Old 30 August 2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Galifrey
The irony is that the products that might be banned are old products anyway, it is like Samsung getting a ban on an Iphone 3gs.
It was nothing to do with getting phones banned, it was getting Samsung to pay it's due's, and that happened. No it won't be a problem paying it back, Apple give them way more than that anyhow.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
It was nothing to do with getting phones banned, it was getting Samsung to pay it's due's, and that happened. No it won't be a problem paying it back, Apple give them way more than that anyhow.
If it holds up under appeal, which is looking ever more unlikely.
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Apple shat themselves after seeing Samsung, who pretty much came out of no-where, take a big chunk out of Apples market share to overtake them as the worlds biggest phone seller in a matter of a few years. Apple couldn't do squat, the iPhone 4 and the 4S did nothing so slow their pace so did the next best thing and try to take out their rival in the courts instead.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Apple shat themselves after seeing Samsung, who pretty much came out of no-where, take a big chunk out of Apples market share to overtake them as the worlds biggest phone seller in a matter of a few years. Apple couldn't do squat, the iPhone 4 and the 4S did nothing so slow their pace so did the next best thing and try to take out their rival in the courts instead.
What a fool you are if you believe that.
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see post 12
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Originally Posted by JackClark
What a fool you are if you believe that.
I've only stated fact.
Old 30 August 2012, 04:53 PM
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"Apple Shat themselves" "Samsung came out of nowhere" "took a large chunk of market share"

None of those are fact and I got tired of cut and pasting.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
"Samsung came out of nowhere"


Originally Posted by JackClark
"took a large chunk of market share"


And that's why they shat themselves and twisted the patent laws to litigate the competition out of the market.

Originally Posted by JackClark
None of those are fact and I got tired of cut and pasting.
You're wrong there, FACT!

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Old 31 August 2012, 02:09 PM
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Jack gets schooled once again

He just can not accept that Apple do not make very good phones or tablets in comparison to other manufacturers, there is no way he can ever be impartial about it all, which immediately invalidates what ever point he tries to make.
Old 01 September 2012, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
Apple do not make very good phones or tablets in comparison to other manufacturers
Subjective to say the very least.

Whilst JC does tend to bitch like an old woman about this subject and quite obviously has an apple device shoved in every orifice, I have to confess that the context of your statement is fairly flawed.
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Laughable.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Subjective to say the very least.

Whilst JC does tend to bitch like an old woman about this subject and quite obviously has an apple device shoved in every orifice, I have to confess that the context of your statement is fairly flawed.
I dont know how to respond to this

Ok, the iphone is outdated compared to rivals, the 5 probably wont be a class leader when it comes out, the ipad is the best seller out there and pretty much trumps the competition, but not by much, its a very small margain now, id say that the Galaxy Tab 2 may even be better as its just been released, BUT Apple's biggest plus is ease of use, this is its biggest winner, though android devices are catching up and fast, and with windows 8 devices due out shortly, Apple have a fight on their hands to stay on top with that too.

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From a technical standpoint the current iPhone maybe outdated, but in reality that doesn't make it an inferior product, so in essence could be construed as irrelevant in the context of my remark.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
From a technical standpoint the current iPhone maybe outdated, but in reality that doesn't make it an inferior product,
Agreed, and being more flexible doesn't make the Androids a better product. The phones suit different peoples needs, just like a good chunk of people would be fine with an Apple Mac, but purchase windows PC's as they are cheaper and more flexible (or they don't appreciate that there is a Mac available to suit their needs).

The big issue here is that Apple cannot compete on even terms so they try to patent every minor detail and those patents should never have been granted or should have been made available on fair and reasonable terms to other smartphone manufacturers. For example, gestures that Apple created for use on a touch screen should be patentable and made available to other smartphone makers on fair terms.

It is a ludicrous as Apples lawsuit with Microsoft over windows, which was like the Mac OS, a derivation of Xerox's GUI for which Microsoft paid licence fees to Apple for certain elements of Windows 1.0. Samsung and Apple need to sit down together and work out an amicable arrangement where the 2 companies can compete on even ground with reasonable cross licensing agreements that do not kill competition and result in ridiculous lawsuits every 5 minutes.

Apple will start to find themselves on the back end of a monopolistic practice lawsuit if they are not careful just like Microsoft did.
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