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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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"No malware problem here" Google remind me of that Iraqi fella.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11...ne_spying_app/
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Hardly Malware as it was put in place by the carriers for very specific reasons.

Anyway, if you know anything about iPhones you'll know that IQAgent (Carrier IQ package) runs on them too depending which country you are in.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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If you say it's not a problem then I'm sure it's not.

But what about this one from Today http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11..._security_bug/
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 04:07 PM
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And where are all the people who care so much about Mobile Security they pipe up every time someone leaves an iPhone unlocked, where's your valued advice.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Well lets hope it doesn't do the only thing people didn't know it was doing on Android.

And remember folks, people bought Android for the supposed freedom, you were sold on a function that could only lead to the trouble you're suffering now.

Anyone who thinks there's no malware on mobile devices is an idiot, but have a think about who's looking after you and how much do they charge.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
As opposed to iOS which is more closed but, ummm, suffers the same malware as Android ... ummm So, I'm not sure exactly how you're trying to spin this one Jack ...

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Malware will always affect iOS differently to Android. Apple as you put it 'Closed' the stable door before the horse bolted. Google will tell you where to buy your stable door and will take a percentage.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 01:02 AM
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didnt apple buy a company for a few mill dollars that specialises in ads to mobile phone users based on their browsing habits?

edit (found it) Quattro Wireless was the company they bought - more than a few mill as well!

http://www.crunchbase.com/company/quattro-wireless

spyware anyone?

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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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Just to clear up a few things, Carrier IQ is still on some Apple devices, Apple got rid of it on most devices with iOS 5, but not all. They do plan to remove it completely though. And Apple insist no personal data is transferred and all data is encrypted.

As for Android, it has nothing to do with Android. The carriers have added the software, it is not bundled as part of the AOSP, like it is with iOS. The software is not shipped on any of the Nexus phones. As Android is open source, the carriers add it in after.

I'm sure it won't be long before companies make the decision to remove it, now it is more publicly known.

It is not present on Windows phones.

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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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Lets face facts both IOS and Android have flaws, security leaks, malware and more will be continued to be found in both.
Each has their weakness and strengths and blind followers to both.
End of.

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Hardly the end of and hardly the same for all operating systems, this is just the beginning.

With PC's dying out the mobsters will need to get paid from somewhere and that somewhere will be your and your mothers Android phone. Get wise now, if no one's looking out for you then you'd better do something for yourself.
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Don't understand this. It's software right? So various files get installed around the file system somewhere ready to start when the OS boots and/or various other things happen. I'm at rather a loss to figure out why Apple (or anyone else) can't just 'not install' the SW for their next update....




Would you please put a stop to your pathetic attempts to stop a perfectly good, immature, *****-waving argument over the pros and cons of two of the most important things this planet has to offer

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lol quality

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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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We all know windows phones are taking over everything anyway
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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We all know windows phones are taking over everything anyway
I doubt that, after all if it is a true Windows product it will have more holes than a fishing net and every time you go to use it you will get a notice telling you to update due to vunerabilities.

Windows makes iOS and Android look like Fort Knox in comparison.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I doubt that, after all if it is a true Windows product it will have more holes than a fishing net and every time you go to use it you will get a notice telling you to update due to vunerabilities.

Windows makes iOS and Android look like Fort Knox in comparison.
Probably I have an iPhone personally but thought I would throw windows into the argument, I'll be throwing blackberry in next
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Originally Posted by Jamescsti
Probably I have an iPhone personally but thought I would throw windows into the argument, I'll be throwing blackberry in next
Throw a Symbian Nokia if you really want a good laugh.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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I have a Symbian Nokia, it's a very good Camera. Not as good as the 4s but good. Chances of it being the target of a large scale attack, not very high.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...droid-apps.ars

Fragmentation bites.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Hardly the end of and hardly the same for all operating systems, this is just the beginning.

With PC's dying out the mobsters will need to get paid from somewhere and that somewhere will be your and your mothers Android phone. Get wise now, if no one's looking out for you then you'd better do something for yourself.
PMSL - PC's dying out, better tell all those massive companies that use them.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Don't believe me then, very nice paper published this week stating the same and giving good reason. You stay stuck in the 90's if you wish, the rest of us will cut the chains.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:30 PM
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I know our IT dept in the UK would love to get out of Windows usage, but unfortunately a lot of the programs we use are specific to the industry I work in and our network literally is world wide with IT centres in the USA, Sweden, Poland, Brazil, China, Japan, India and Australia to name but a few.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Don't understand this. It's software right? So various files get installed around the file system somewhere ready to start when the OS boots and/or various other things happen. I'm at rather a loss to figure out why Apple (or anyone else) can't just 'not install' the SW for their next update....

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They can and probably will, the Carrier IQ software is not malicious in itself, it is requested to be put into the OS by the carriers as a tool for gathering system data of some sort. As iOS is not open source, only Apple can do this. Android is open source so Samsung and whoever else put it in if the carrier wants it. The problem is someone has managed to exploit it on Android to read potentially sensitive data. Not sure if carriers in the UK use the software or not. There's an app on the market for checking if you have the Carrier IQ software lurking on your phone.

https://market.android.com/details?i...rieriqdetector
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