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Old 27 March 2011, 11:20 PM
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Just started using it, because I couldn't get Win7 installed on my new machine, via USB, but now I think its great and likely to be a keeper.

Any hardcore users give me any hints or tips?
What's the deal with viruses and all that? I heard you don't get any. But with it being freeware, I find it hard to believe.

It almost reminds me of an Android operating system, especially with links to free apps via Ubuntu Software Centre.

My issues so far have only been with compatibility with programs I used to use in windows. Is there some kind of emulation or virtual machine you can use?
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It's very much like Android, free and a bit ****.
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Oh no, I didn't think about disturbing the Apple brigade.

Any serious comments?
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If you want run some Windows SW on Ubuntu i would recommend VirtualBox.



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Im using it too , Great software for free and I dont think ill ever buy windows again tbh


WINE works also for windows software I believe
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I use it 90% of the time now and only fire up windows to play games and use office. As for antivirus avast do a free version for linux if you run a dual boot or want to scan windows computers on your network.
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Not anti, I use it. Just letting you know.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Not anti, I use it. Just letting you know.

It's not exactly **** though is it. Okay it can be a bit tricky getting to grips using the sudo commands if you're used to installing apps easily on windows or mac os but for a free os you cannot complain.
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I'm not a fan, but this guide might be useful for getting Windows 7 to install from a USB stick:

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-in...working-guide/
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forget about viruses, you won't get any on linux.
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I am coming to you know via Ubuntu, its fine, it is funny how a Linux Distro like Ubuntu is "****" when others are considered the ultimate, Mac Os-X which is basically a Linux Distro, a very polished one granted but basically Linux served on a really rather expensive hardware platform, its kind of like Audi fooling the consumers with shiny topshow when underneath its the same as a Skoda.

I do like Apple stuff but its not real computing is it, its shiny toys, where is there Database product, Enterprise OS etc etc
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Originally Posted by DonNedly
forget about viruses, you won't get any on linux.
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"There are about 60,000 viruses known for Windows, 40 or so for the Macintosh, about 5 for commercial Unix versions, and perhaps 40 for Linux. Most of the Windows viruses are not important, but many hundreds have caused widespread damage. Two or three of the Macintosh viruses were widespread enough to be of importance. None of the Unix or Linux viruses became widespread - most were confined to the laboratory."
Dr Julian Satchell's Analysis of the Impact of Open Source Software
Old 29 March 2011, 06:42 AM
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Never bothered with a virus checker for Ubuntu, never had any trouble.
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Yep, no virus activity as far as I have heard of, I think the criminal hackers reject it based on market share and the fact that its more secure by design, plus the fact that the average Linux user is more tech savvy than the average Windows one, its a concious choice usually rather than what turned up when you bought your pc from Dell or PC World, therefore more toruble that its worth.

The other types of hacker tend to see Linux as their own and its not corporate like Windows is, so they tend to not want to hack it the same, even the solo nerd with a quest to destroy the world with a virus wont bother as there are too few machines.

I do like Windows 7, I think its really good but I do think there is a place for Ubuntu, I run it on my shonky old laptop (Dell D610) on which it runs fine with 2 GB of ram, I only brose the web and once in Firefox you cant tell the difference and there is no fannying with licences, warez sites, genuine advantage etc etc, put it on and get on with it.
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Thanks for the comments, will try out Virtual Box.
Also thanks for the Win7 guide, but that was one I tried before.
Firstly, it wasn't recognising any of my USB sticks, only recognised a portable HDD I had loads of stuff on. Plus the only version of DISKPART I could use didn't have the format option anyway. Tried formatting it another way, and I just couldn't continue.

But I am happy with Ubuntu so far, so likely to stay on it
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well chaps bit the bullet and stuck it on my big machine as a fresh install. have to say so far i am impressed. got my torrents and newsgroups all back up and running again no probs. my BSOD hasn't appeared in about 6 hours. i am unexpectantly hopeful it will wont be back.

so laptop install next. i have no cd (its broken), cant boot from usb stick. any ideas how i could install on the laptop. sorry my brain has gone to mulsh tonight
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so laptop install next. i have no cd (its broken), cant boot from usb stick. any ideas how i could install on the laptop. sorry my brain has gone to mulsh tonight
I'd have a go at taking the laptop hdd out, plugging it into desktop, moving the ubuntu set up onto it, put it back in the laptop and boot it from there.
Might work.
Old 31 March 2011, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by joey_turbo
I'd have a go at taking the laptop hdd out, plugging it into desktop, moving the ubuntu set up onto it, put it back in the laptop and boot it from there.
Might work.
but that will install ubuntu with all the drivers for my big machine not the laptop. i think it would just be easier to buy a laptop with no operating syatem on it. i got one last year for my dad, a logiQ model, from EBuyer but now nowhere seems to do laptops without some sort of OS. the exception here is Novatech, but they are too expensive @ £370.

I was looking to spend arount £300. I want 15" screen, 320GB HDD, would prefer a Dual core, and wifi and USB. Anyone recommend anything. I dont want a netbook as i already have access to an iPad.
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but that will install ubuntu with all the drivers for my big machine not the laptop.
No, I meant the original Ubuntu setup files, not a direct copy form your PC.
Get all the drivers you can first, and put them on after the install.
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Can your laptop boot via the network interface? If you can, I would build a PXE server on your desktop, modify DHCP options etc..

There are other ways, but what a good challenge to help you learn linux
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I've got the ubuntu 11.04 upgrade come through, haven't done it yet. As usually with big updates on things I'm a bit sceptical until I've hear about all the bugs. Anyone updated yet?
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yes i upgraded yesterday. unity is bit of a ballache at the start but you get used to it.
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well I updated, and now it doesn't want to boot. So I'm using the copy I still had on USB, as I don't want to have to do a fresh install and lose all my files.
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I had problems with Unity dock and have started using the Unity light for Gnome. so far no problems. will give it another few weeks to see if Canonical can get the problems people seem to be having with full blown Unity sorted.

Joey, did you use the fresh install iso or the alternative upgrade iso? there are two different packages to download. one wipes your old 10.10 system out, the other upgrades your 10.10 to 11.04 but keeps all your files intact.
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I used the upgrade that was suggested in the daily updates. I'm back on now. But it doesn't boot directly into the new version. I have to select an older kernal on boot up. But it is the new version. I'm not too keen on the dock either. I preferred the old panel. Do you know if there is a way to go back?
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not sure i don't think so. you can boot into classic gnome desktop though.
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cheers, I'm installing that bow


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