Virgin 50MB and Usenet downloads
06 February 2011, 04:30 PM
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Virgin 50MB and Usenet downloads
About to upgrade to the 50MB and noticed this in the small print
What good is a 50meg connection other than to download large files using the services quoted?
Can they detect you're downloading from usenet when using an SSL connection through Port 563?
It also doesn't mention how much they will slow the downloads by, I know it's 75% on the other services - anybody any ideas on this?
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At peak times we also slow down the speed of file sharing traffic – that's services like Limewire, Gnutella, BitTorrent and Newsgroup (Usenet) traffic. You will, of course, still be able to use these services, but downloads and uploads will take longer during these peak periods.
At peak times we also slow down the speed of file sharing traffic – that's services like Limewire, Gnutella, BitTorrent and Newsgroup (Usenet) traffic. You will, of course, still be able to use these services, but downloads and uploads will take longer during these peak periods.
Can they detect you're downloading from usenet when using an SSL connection through Port 563?
It also doesn't mention how much they will slow the downloads by, I know it's 75% on the other services - anybody any ideas on this?
06 February 2011, 05:06 PM
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Not sure if this is any good.
If I am reading it correctly, then regardless of wether you are using SSL or not, they can still detect traffic on the port. SSL will, I think, only prevent them from seeing what it is you are downloading.
The URL above does mention using services that use other ports, so might be worth using those services, plus SSL.
If I am reading it correctly, then regardless of wether you are using SSL or not, they can still detect traffic on the port. SSL will, I think, only prevent them from seeing what it is you are downloading.
The URL above does mention using services that use other ports, so might be worth using those services, plus SSL.
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06 February 2011, 05:22 PM
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Not sure if this is any good.
If I am reading it correctly, then regardless of wether you are using SSL or not, they can still detect traffic on the port. SSL will, I think, only prevent them from seeing what it is you are downloading.
The URL above does mention using services that use other ports, so might be worth using those services, plus SSL.
If I am reading it correctly, then regardless of wether you are using SSL or not, they can still detect traffic on the port. SSL will, I think, only prevent them from seeing what it is you are downloading.
The URL above does mention using services that use other ports, so might be worth using those services, plus SSL.
Have used both Easynews and Giganews in the past, bit more expensive but if you're after the full connection speed that you're *PAYING FOR* probably worth the extra cost.
06 February 2011, 07:40 PM
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Not sure if this is any good.
If I am reading it correctly, then regardless of wether you are using SSL or not, they can still detect traffic on the port. SSL will, I think, only prevent them from seeing what it is you are downloading.
The URL above does mention using services that use other ports, so might be worth using those services, plus SSL.
If I am reading it correctly, then regardless of wether you are using SSL or not, they can still detect traffic on the port. SSL will, I think, only prevent them from seeing what it is you are downloading.
The URL above does mention using services that use other ports, so might be worth using those services, plus SSL.
06 February 2011, 08:19 PM
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When I configured my Giganews to use SSL it defaulted to port 563 and my bandwidth was throttled instantly.....went from 6MB/s to 2MB/s
I changed the port to use 443 and went straight back up to 6MB/s
I changed the port to use 443 and went straight back up to 6MB/s
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07 February 2011, 11:09 AM
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But he shouldn't have to really. I got Newsbin Pro for this very reason because Plusnet did the same, but it's a PITA.
I am with BE now, who let me download with impunity, any time of day or night, no limits.
It does seem daft to give these very high download speeds and then say you can only use them when you're asleep! There are perfectly legal downloads to get from P2P and Usenet, so it's a bit cr@p IMO.
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I am with BE now, who let me download with impunity, any time of day or night, no limits.
It does seem daft to give these very high download speeds and then say you can only use them when you're asleep! There are perfectly legal downloads to get from P2P and Usenet, so it's a bit cr@p IMO.
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07 February 2011, 11:17 AM
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the cap is in the upload not the download, there is no cap on the 50mb download at all, to any site.
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html
the 50mb is on the far right of the bottom tables.
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html
the 50mb is on the far right of the bottom tables.
I suggest you read that again, carefully.
07 February 2011, 12:22 PM
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the cap is in the upload not the download, there is no cap on the 50mb download at all, to any site.
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html
the 50mb is on the far right of the bottom tables.
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html
the 50mb is on the far right of the bottom tables.
07 February 2011, 12:55 PM
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any bandwidth/download guarantee an ISP gives you is only worth anything whilst the data is travelling thru their network.
07 February 2011, 01:24 PM
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Not sure how they can say it does then not list it below?
i can tell you that i havn't found any limit on downloads, i have had 26gb down from steam in a few hours with no drop in speed, and regularly get 5-10gb downloads prob once or twice a week and don;t get speed drop. biggest issue is actualy upload from far end
Steam uses p2p by the way
i can tell you that i havn't found any limit on downloads, i have had 26gb down from steam in a few hours with no drop in speed, and regularly get 5-10gb downloads prob once or twice a week and don;t get speed drop. biggest issue is actualy upload from far end
Steam uses p2p by the way
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