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Old 13 December 2010, 07:41 AM
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OK - I accept it is not the most recent release - XP - but Windows is truly awful!

I needed to do a quick email check this morning that ended up taking over 20 minutes on my clients Windows machine. Just waking it up from its slumber involved four minutes of disk thrashing before it would respond. Then additional countless minutes trying to connect to public wifi.

I eventually gave up. Opened my Mac, connected in a few seconds, into webmail in a few seconds. Sorted.

Why there are so many Windows supporters baffles me - have they all been brainwashed by Gates and Balmer et al?

Of course you cannot knock the marketing machine at Microsoft, style over substance, getting just about every manufacturer to send out PCs and Laptops preloaded with this crap.

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Old 13 December 2010, 07:46 AM
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Windows7 on a decent machine is very quick. Still prefer my mac though
Old 13 December 2010, 07:55 AM
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I switch our 8 year old xp office pc on and go and have breakfast as it takes that long to fire up.
My laptop with W7 however only takes a few seconds.
And it doesn't appear to be getting any worse over time as previous versions do.
I would like a MAC and will no doubt get one soon.

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Old 13 December 2010, 07:57 AM
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XP stripped bare is OK. Windows 7 is pretty good, but every now and then the disguise slips and you find NT on your machine.

I do find it amusing when people bash OSX, but use Windows.
Old 13 December 2010, 08:30 AM
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I have found XP to be perfectly alright and reliable and 7 seems to be working well enough too.

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Old 13 December 2010, 10:27 AM
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No probs here on my Samsung Netbook, resumes within seconds.

I think you'll find its more likely the ageing PC/Laptop than the software....
Old 13 December 2010, 11:34 AM
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Sounds very much like aging hardware and software that has not been maintained in years..... and a troll looking to start a Windows vs Apple "debate"!
Old 13 December 2010, 12:54 PM
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You think that's bad? Try Windows Vista!!
Old 13 December 2010, 01:05 PM
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This is really only a debate if run on the same spec hardware and same age operating system.

Even if machines were both of a similar spec, comparing an aged XP against a current OS X is still an unfair fight.
Old 13 December 2010, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Tang
Sounds very much like aging hardware and software that has not been maintained in years..... and a troll looking to start a Windows vs Apple "debate"!
This.

Dumb thread is dumb.
Old 13 December 2010, 01:21 PM
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Shock news, my new Dell laptop running Windows 7 is much quicker with email than my old Apple II computer which doesn't even get email!
Old 13 December 2010, 01:56 PM
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Re-install with W7
My laptop with W7 enterprise awakes from standby and I can't be logged in within seconds.
Old 13 December 2010, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
You think that's bad? Try Windows Vista!!
I liked Windows Vista. At least, there was certainly wrong with it.

Steve
Old 13 December 2010, 06:48 PM
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I'd rather use an Amiga than a machine old enough to have XP on it from new...

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Old 13 December 2010, 07:59 PM
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it is the shared DLL architecture that causes this type of slowdown

interestingly Mickysoft/Windows are moving to virtualising applications -- which in a roundabout way is taking Mickysoft back to the days of DOS

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Old 14 December 2010, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Tang
Sounds very much like aging hardware and software that has not been maintained in years..... and a troll looking to start a Windows vs Apple "debate"!
Wrong!!!!

It is a laptop that is two years old running corporate standard XP that is completely up to date.

As for the debate
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Originally Posted by jonc
You think that's bad? Try Windows Vista!!
My old home PC (three years old) is Vista. It can do hours of thrashing for no apparent reason, sometimes won't turn off, glows in the dark half the night.

Takes an age to wake up and login - I hate that one too.
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Vista was a beta version of Windows 7
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
it is the shared DLL architecture that causes this type of slowdown

interestingly Mickysoft/Windows are moving to virtualising applications -- which in a roundabout way is taking Mickysoft back to the days of DOS
Yes, now DLL's are a fantastic idea, but the whole concept is prone to memory leaks.

Virtual PC's - ******* disaster.
Old 14 December 2010, 11:38 AM
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lots of teasing going on here lol
Old 14 December 2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Wrong!!!!

It is a laptop that is two years old running corporate standard XP that is completely up to date.

As for the debate
Is there an AV crippling the performance of the XP machine?

Do you run AV on your Mac?
Old 14 December 2010, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Wrong!!!!

It is a laptop that is two years old running corporate standard XP that is completely up to date.

As for the debate

Corp build .. well there you go then .. I have a lappy that's still selling for 2k a year on and the corp build makes it run really **** .. dual core business lappy too..
Old 14 December 2010, 10:29 PM
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reason most like wondows is it familier,IE 80% of the world use it in business and pleasure,

If yout IT litrate theres no doubt the MAC is a nice pimp machine with a great opp sys, just look at the ipad and Iphone cracking machine in fact best in class.

Its all down to what people are used to

my works laptop takes 20 mins to boot because of all the **** work puts on policies etc etc, plus the hardware is utter IBM pooness.

But my windows 7 on my I7 PC with 12 gig ram SSd drive is the fastest ive seen.

ive still not succomb to buy a mac id like 1 for the reliablilty, i,ll still boot camp it though.
Old 14 December 2010, 11:18 PM
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Whats the fascination with Mac's

Horrid machines, back in the 80,s and still horrid now

who wants a machine that you had to tell it to eject a disc.

And then would make you wait whilst it wiped a program disk, because there

was no manual eject button and insisted on no write protection on said disk.


Still if early learning style stuff floats your boat its up to you.


I'll stick with windows, might be clunky and have probs, but it works


Mart
Old 14 December 2010, 11:36 PM
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Marty360 McFly, welcome to the year 2010. Unfortunately all the Mac features you hated back in the 80's have been adopted by all top notch operating systems here in your future. You bet on Betamax, now hop back in the Delorean and find some Apple love.
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