Manhunt 2 Banned in the UK
19 June 2007, 04:27 PM
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Manhunt 2 Banned in the UK
BBC NEWS | England | Leicestershire | Censors ban 'brutal' video game
A sad day
I abhore censorship in all its forms. I do not beleive some arbitary panel of judges have the ability, not to mention the right, to decide what I can and cannot see/hear/play.
Of course, if the decision is overturned (which given history of banned media is likely with some modifcation) then the BBFC have just handed Manhunt 2 the best publicity it could have possibly hoped for.
By not giving this game an 18 certificate, the BBFC have judged that you as adults are not able to cope with the horrific scenes on display.
To be honest, I have no interest in playing the game myself, I though manhunt was *ok* but not worthy of the adulation it got in some quarters. I might just have to import it purely as a protest though - It's the principle involved.
A sad day
I abhore censorship in all its forms. I do not beleive some arbitary panel of judges have the ability, not to mention the right, to decide what I can and cannot see/hear/play.
Of course, if the decision is overturned (which given history of banned media is likely with some modifcation) then the BBFC have just handed Manhunt 2 the best publicity it could have possibly hoped for.
By not giving this game an 18 certificate, the BBFC have judged that you as adults are not able to cope with the horrific scenes on display.
To be honest, I have no interest in playing the game myself, I though manhunt was *ok* but not worthy of the adulation it got in some quarters. I might just have to import it purely as a protest though - It's the principle involved.
19 June 2007, 07:10 PM
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Its pathetic. Unfortunatley theres people out there who can't differentiate between whats real and whats fiction. The silly thing is, brutal murders and the like will happen regardless of banning thing like this.
People should be able to decide wether something is suitable for them to watch or not. I totally agree with certifates, just not censorship.
People should be able to decide wether something is suitable for them to watch or not. I totally agree with certifates, just not censorship.
19 June 2007, 07:59 PM
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If it's got an 18 certificate then it's essentially adults only and one would like to think that adults know this is a game, not real life, and what you can do in a game you cannot and usually should not do in the real world.
If someone under 18 has the game then how did they get it? If a store sold it to them then the store needs to have action taken against it. If someone purchased the game for them then that person needs action taken against them. Perhaps the parents should monitor the games their kids are playing and if they have access to games they should not be playing then the parents should do something about it, or action should be taken against the parents.
One interesting thing I've read is that the kid who murdered the other kid did NOT own, let alone play manhunt, it's been said the person who had the copy of manhunt was the kid who was killed. If this is indeed the case, then it is very hypocritical of the dead kids parents to bleat on about how a dangerous game caused someone to kill their child, as the killer didn't even play the damn game.
Here is a BBC news article detailing that manhunt was not found at the killers residence, but it was found at the residence of the kid who was killed.
If someone under 18 has the game then how did they get it? If a store sold it to them then the store needs to have action taken against it. If someone purchased the game for them then that person needs action taken against them. Perhaps the parents should monitor the games their kids are playing and if they have access to games they should not be playing then the parents should do something about it, or action should be taken against the parents.
One interesting thing I've read is that the kid who murdered the other kid did NOT own, let alone play manhunt, it's been said the person who had the copy of manhunt was the kid who was killed. If this is indeed the case, then it is very hypocritical of the dead kids parents to bleat on about how a dangerous game caused someone to kill their child, as the killer didn't even play the damn game.
Here is a BBC news article detailing that manhunt was not found at the killers residence, but it was found at the residence of the kid who was killed.
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20 June 2007, 09:17 AM
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Law and Order has been banned aswell, fortunately I would say its a valid reason as they have used CCTV footage of Jamie Bulger and a missing poster of him aswell 
Thought that was a bit sick tbh.
Cant find the link for it but heard it on Radio 1 this morning.
Thought that was a bit sick tbh. Cant find the link for it but heard it on Radio 1 this morning.
20 June 2007, 09:24 AM
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If it's got an 18 certificate then it's essentially adults only and one would like to think that adults know this is a game, not real life, and what you can do in a game you cannot and usually should not do in the real world.
If someone under 18 has the game then how did they get it? If a store sold it to them then the store needs to have action taken against it. If someone purchased the game for them then that person needs action taken against them. Perhaps the parents should monitor the games their kids are playing and if they have access to games they should not be playing then the parents should do something about it, or action should be taken against the parents.
One interesting thing I've read is that the kid who murdered the other kid did NOT own, let alone play manhunt, it's been said the person who had the copy of manhunt was the kid who was killed. If this is indeed the case, then it is very hypocritical of the dead kids parents to bleat on about how a dangerous game caused someone to kill their child, as the killer didn't even play the damn game.
Here is a BBC news article detailing that manhunt was not found at the killers residence, but it was found at the residence of the kid who was killed.
If someone under 18 has the game then how did they get it? If a store sold it to them then the store needs to have action taken against it. If someone purchased the game for them then that person needs action taken against them. Perhaps the parents should monitor the games their kids are playing and if they have access to games they should not be playing then the parents should do something about it, or action should be taken against the parents.
One interesting thing I've read is that the kid who murdered the other kid did NOT own, let alone play manhunt, it's been said the person who had the copy of manhunt was the kid who was killed. If this is indeed the case, then it is very hypocritical of the dead kids parents to bleat on about how a dangerous game caused someone to kill their child, as the killer didn't even play the damn game.
Here is a BBC news article detailing that manhunt was not found at the killers residence, but it was found at the residence of the kid who was killed.
It's a farce.
With regards to the 18 certificate. I have a difficult time with the fact that my 16 year old son is deemed old enough to work, get married, smoke, ride a motorcycle and leave home. But not old enough to play Grand Theft Auto in case it turns him into some raving lunatic.
I agree with certification as a guide, but no way should it be the absolute measure by which it is decided whether someone can view/play/listen to something. A parent who knows the child is the one best equipped to make a decision, not some arbitary panel, and certainly not some spotty game store sales assistant.
I have no problem at all with my 13 year old playing GTA etc, I would have no problem with him playing any 18 rated game. Will the language used in the game be new to him? No, the school playground will be 100 times worse. Will the violence be new to him? No, has seen the 6 o'clock news. Will the fact that there are such things as prostitutes break his fragile little mind? No.
We all saw 18 rated films long before we *should* have done (according to the authorities) did it hurt us? No.
In society you have to cater for the vast (and I mean *vast*) majority of people that will not go out and kill every mother****er in the street once they have played a violent videogame, not the extreme minority that will go out and do this whether they play videogames or not.
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20 June 2007, 09:39 AM
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yeah I think it is right to ban it when it has the bulger content as that is rightfully a bit sick! No doubt though the offending content will be removed and the game will get released eventually (probably under a different name)
20 June 2007, 10:18 AM
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This really annoys me
Simply because there are a minority who cant find the line between game and reality others are punished
Manhunt wasn't that aggressive compared with other material we have access to - and I still use that game to get rid of pent up aggression, therefore stopping me from going out and doing 'bad things' (not that I would, its just more of stress relief)
For those who've seen any horror film made in the last 10 years or so, they are far more gory than any video game and would give more ideas of how to attack or kill someone if the viewer wished
Why is it that they constantly try to ban games and movies because they MAY influence a minority - when the miority have access to far more violent material anyway - can anyone say 'internet'
Whats next to be banned - driving games cos they promote bad driving practice
While were there lets ban chess as it promotes logical thinking therefore increasing the possibilty of someone planning a crime and getting away with it
Off to play manhunt now to get rid of the frustration
quick question - are age ratings on games still guidelines or now law like movies? I know they used to be just guidance and a 12year old could buy an 18 game
Simply because there are a minority who cant find the line between game and reality others are punished
Manhunt wasn't that aggressive compared with other material we have access to - and I still use that game to get rid of pent up aggression, therefore stopping me from going out and doing 'bad things' (not that I would, its just more of stress relief)
For those who've seen any horror film made in the last 10 years or so, they are far more gory than any video game and would give more ideas of how to attack or kill someone if the viewer wished
Why is it that they constantly try to ban games and movies because they MAY influence a minority - when the miority have access to far more violent material anyway - can anyone say 'internet'
Whats next to be banned - driving games cos they promote bad driving practice
While were there lets ban chess as it promotes logical thinking therefore increasing the possibilty of someone planning a crime and getting away with it
Off to play manhunt now to get rid of the frustration
quick question - are age ratings on games still guidelines or now law like movies? I know they used to be just guidance and a 12year old could buy an 18 game
20 June 2007, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BBC
Ms Fergus wrote to the manufacturer demanding the image should be removed from the game, which was first published in 2003
Law & Order didn't have the best of sales when it was first released, I doubt it has sold a single copy in 2007
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This is something I take delight in when I buy 18 rated games for my kids. Especially when I get some pious 18 year **** trying to tell me that "do I know this game isn't really suitable for a 16 year old"
20 June 2007, 10:40 AM
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I had never even heard of the prequel let alone this one that is to be banned. I will now do all I can get Manhunt 2... See the power of "advertising"...
It is ludicrous to ban as it gives the game prestige and makes it more desirable. Imported copies will get through. My copy will be one...
Grrr
It is ludicrous to ban as it gives the game prestige and makes it more desirable. Imported copies will get through. My copy will be one...
Grrr
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20 June 2007, 10:51 AM
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Rockstar Games has issued a statement, noting its disappointment in the decision made by the British Board of Film Classification to ban Manhunt 2 from going on sale in the UK.
"We are disappointed with the recent decision by the British Board of Film Classification to refuse classification of Manhunt 2. While we respect the authority of the classification board and will abide by the rules, we emphatically disagree with this particular decision," reads a statement from Rockstar Games.
"Manhunt 2 is an entertainment experience for fans of psychological thrillers and horror. The subject matter of this game is in line with other mainstream entertainment choices for adult consumers."
The statement continues: "We believe all products should be rated to allow the public to make informed choices about the media and art they wish to consume. The stories in modern videogames are as diverse as the stories in books, film and television. The adult consumers who would play this game fully understand that it is fictional interactive entertainment and nothing more."
"We are disappointed with the recent decision by the British Board of Film Classification to refuse classification of Manhunt 2. While we respect the authority of the classification board and will abide by the rules, we emphatically disagree with this particular decision," reads a statement from Rockstar Games.
"Manhunt 2 is an entertainment experience for fans of psychological thrillers and horror. The subject matter of this game is in line with other mainstream entertainment choices for adult consumers."
The statement continues: "We believe all products should be rated to allow the public to make informed choices about the media and art they wish to consume. The stories in modern videogames are as diverse as the stories in books, film and television. The adult consumers who would play this game fully understand that it is fictional interactive entertainment and nothing more."
20 June 2007, 11:20 AM
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available on pre order from Game - age rating TBC
http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.as...243&mid=330414
http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.as...243&mid=330414
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Odd thing is that its been rated AO in the USA (Adults Only) . . . . Nintendo have a policy of not selling AO rated games 
So currently, if Nintendo stick to their policy, looks like the Wii version is doubtful too. The Wii version is being handled by Rockstar Toronto as opposed to the others by Rockstar North, so perhaps it will be a 'cut' version ?
So currently, if Nintendo stick to their policy, looks like the Wii version is doubtful too. The Wii version is being handled by Rockstar Toronto as opposed to the others by Rockstar North, so perhaps it will be a 'cut' version ?
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20 June 2007, 12:16 PM
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see what I was trying to say was that It would be really good if it was on the ps3 and the 360 yeah....... that what it was
I don't think I got out of that one did I..........??
I do still have Jet lag if that helps, Honest
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I don't think I got out of that one did I..........??
I do still have Jet lag if that helps, Honest
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