DJ Dunk

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I can almost taste the petrol fumes No . . . wait, don't turn on that light switch . . .

Forza Motorsport 2 - Forza Motorsport 2 Speeds Into European Retail May 2007

By: Che Chou
A few weeks ago, we committed to a May 2007 release date for North America. Now Turn 10 and Microsoft Game Studios is happy to announce that Forza Motorsport 2 will also see its European retail debut in May 2007. After some debate, we felt it was only right for Forza Motorsport 2's online community if we were to release the game on a global level simultaneously.

Now that we've come clean about our European release date, we thought it'd be most appropriate to kick off the first of our six Forza Motorsport 2 car reveal lists with none other than the much coveted European exotics. So here now are 35 models from Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche and Maserati -- all rides which you'll be able to customize, from engine upgrades and body kits, to paintjobs and livery designs. Plus, each one of these cars takes heartbreaking damage when you pile with reckless abandon into turn one. So without futher ado...



Forza Motorsport 2: Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, and Porsche Car List

2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1999 Ferrari 360 Modena
2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
1991 Ferrari 512 TR
1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge
1984 Ferrari GTO
2004 Ferrari F430
2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
1987 Ferrari F40
1995 Ferrari F50
2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
1967 Ferrari 330 P4






2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
2005 Lamborghini Murcielago
1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
2006 Maserati GranSport
2004 Maserati MC12
2003 Porsche Boxster S
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
2006 Porsche Cayman S
2004 Porsche 911 GT3 (996)
2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)
1987 Porsche 959
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997)
1995 Porsche 911 GT2
2003 Porsche Carrera GT
1970 Porsche 914/6
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1955 Porsche 550 Spyder

ScoobyJawa

AWESOME!!!!

Neanderthal

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YAY!!!
Although the track list is a little disappointing, but I'm sure they'll release further tracks on the marketplace.

Hanslow

Well I hope the comment on this Pistonheads thread is wrong : PH: Forza 2 news

Otherwise, it sounds like it may be a bit GT5-y , i.e. overestimated what they could feasibly do. This would have tempted me to buy a 360 too, providing they've released the new rumoured cooler running 120GB black version

Will keep my eye out for reviews when the time comes.....

DJ Dunk

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Nuff said about that so called quote

Iain Young

LOL, sounds like a major case of sour grapes to me

Hanslow

Well yeah I did think that too, but then thought there may also be some truth in it, and obviously having a non-disclosure whilst being employed. It'll still no doubt be better than anything else out at the time

Might turn out the be a very expensive game for me if it forces me to buy a 360 Oh to be driving the 1973 911 RS

AndyLyman

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If you own an XBOX 360m goto marketplace and demos.. you can download a video trailer of this game... its truly awesome

a guy at work said the finished game is gonna be just like the trailer of it.....

download it and see..... its free!

Andy

bioforger

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How does he know that? Trailers are usually just fmv sequences and nothing like the actual gameplay.

Iain Young

The trailer, whilst not actual gameplay, was all generated with the graphics engine in the game, (no pre-renders). So, assuming their development team isn't lying, it should be a good indication of what we will see in the finished product

DJ Dunk

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Nice



Cars known to be in Forza 2 so far:

* 2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
* 1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
* 1999 Ferrari 360 Modena
* 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
* 1991 Ferrari 512 TR
* 1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge
* 1984 Ferrari GTO
* 2004 Ferrari F430
* 2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
* 1987 Ferrari F40
* 1995 Ferrari F50
* 2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
* 1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
* 1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
* 1967 Ferrari 330 P4
* 2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
* 1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
* 1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
* 2005 Lamborghini Murcielago
* 1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
* 2006 Maserati GranSport
* 2004 Maserati MC12
* 2003 Porsche Boxster S
* 1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
* 1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
* 2006 Porsche Cayman S
* 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 (996)
* 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)
* 1987 Porsche 959
* 2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997)
* 1995 Porsche 911 GT2
* 2003 Porsche Carrera GT
* 1970 Porsche 914/6
* 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
* 1955 Porsche 550 Spyder
* 2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
* 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
* 2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
* 2000 Audi S4
* 2004 Audi S4
* 2003 Audi RS 6
* 2006 Audi RS 4
* 2004 Bentley Continental GT
* 1997 BMW Motorsport M3 E36
* 2005 BMW Motorsport M3 E46 Coupe
* 2002 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
* 2007 Jaguar XK Coupe
* 1993 Jaguar XJ220
* 1961 Jaguar E-type S1
* 2002 Koenigsegg CC8S
* 1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
* 1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
* 2003 Lotus Elise 135R
* 2005 Lotus Elise 111S
* 2005 Lotus Exige
* 2005 Lotus Exige Espionage
* 1989 Lotus Carlton
* 2005 Lotus Exige Cup 240
* 2002 Lotus Esprit V8
* 1972 Lotus Elan Sprint
* 1997 McLaren F1 GT
* 2003 Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupe
* 2004 Mercedes C32 AMG
* 2005 Mercedes SLR
* 1998 Mercedes AMG Mercedes CLK GTR
* 1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe
* 2003 MINI Cooper-S
* 2004 Opel Speedster Turbo
* 1999 Pagani Zonda C12
* 2007 Peugeot 207 RC
* 2004 Peugeot 206 RC
* 2007 Peugeot 207 Super 2000
* 2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 RS
* 2002 Saab 9-3 Aero
* 2003 SEAT Leon Cupra R
* 2005 SEAT Cupra GT Prototype
* 2001 TVR Tuscan S
* 2001 TVR Tuscan R
* 2005 TVR Sagaris
* 1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
* 2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
* 2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
* 2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR
* 2004 Volkswagen Beetle
* 1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
* 1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
* 2003 Volkswagen Bora VR6
* 2006 Volkswagen Golf GTi
* 2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
* 2004 Volvo S60 R
* 2002 Acura RSX Type-S
* 2001 Acura Integra Type-R
* 2006 Acura RL A-Spec
* 2005 Acura NSX
* 1997 Acura NSX
* 1987 Buick Regal GNX
* 2004 Cadillac CTS-V
* 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe
* 2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
* 2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
* 1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
* 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
* 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
* 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
* 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
* 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454
* 1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
* 1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
* 2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
* 1998 Chrysler Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
* 2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
* 2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
* 1968 Chrysler Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S
* 2003 Dodge SRT4
* 1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
* 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8
* 1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
* 2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
* 2003 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
* 1969 Dodge Charger R/T-SE
* 2003 Ford Focus SVT
* 2006 Ford Focus ST
* 2005 Ford Mustang GT
* 2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R
* 2005 Ford Ford GT
* 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
* 1966 Ford GT40 MkII
* 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
* 2003 Lexus IS300
* 2002 Lexus SC430
* 2006 Lexus IS350
* 2005 Panoz Esperante GTLM
* 2006 Pontiac Solstice
* 2004 Pontiac GTO
* 1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
* 2000 Saleen S281
* 2006 Saleen S281 E
* 2004 Saleen S7
* 2006 Saturn ION Red Line
* 2005 Scion tC
* 2007 Shelby GT500
* 1999 Shelby Series 1
* 1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR
* 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C

In total we’ve got 144 cars that have been unveiled so far, but there will be 300+ cars. The Race class cars will be published April 19, the Tuner and Aftermarket list April 5 and the Asian car list in about two weeks on March 22.

ScoobyJawa

Looking awesome!

StickyMicky

is this an arcade style game??

as i "splashed" out on a pre owned copy of PGR3 after reading messages on this BBS and to be frank, i think PGR3 is pretty crap

which i kinda suspected after playing the demo, hence the pre owned copy for £15

played for 2 hours and then had enough cash to buy the best car in the game


maybe i`m just to used to LFS, but good graphics just dont cut it for me with racing games for some reason

TDU was complete tripe as well if i`m honest.....

ScoobyDoo555

Couldn't agree more - never understood the hype

Dan

ScoobyJawa

Nope - its the Xbox version of GT (and much better )

Iain Young

Car handling in TDU was much better if you turned off the dfriver aids. Great game in my opinion

I hated PGR3 though. No innovation over PGR2, it was a smaller game, and got very samey very quickly...

chrisowe

I can't seem to unlock the bike garages in TDU. I'm sure I've visited all the car garages.

PeteBrant

It's somewhere inbetween GT and PGR.

The car handling is nowhere near as harsh as GT, but nowhere near as arcadey as PGR.

The absolute best thing about Forza is car damage. Unlike GT and PGR, there are consequences for driving like and idiot. Online, this is the best console racer bar none, precisely for this reasons - People are forced to actually race.

The fact it is on proper circuit and not streets makes it all the better - Tracks are designed for racing on - Streets aren't.

THe fact there are only a handful of circuits is even better - with fewer tracks you have a chance of learning them all inside out.

Cannot wait for this game - I played the original to death.

Iain Young

I thought the GT car handling was more arcadey than PGR. It was laughably bad, and nothing like real car physics. PGR wasn't much better, but at least the opponent vehicles weren' stuck on rails all the time (it had slightly better AI).

Same here. The first Forza was the best console racer so far imo. I'm really looking forward to the sequel

Iain Young

I was using the Drving Force Pro wheel with GT4, and I stand by what I have said. The driving physics in that game are a joke. The cars behave nothing like real cars do (you can do things that just aren't possible), and the AI on the opponent cars is terrible. I really couldn't see what the fuss was all about wit the GT games, although I suppose it was the most realistic driving game on the PS2. That doesn't mean it behaves realistically though

The GTR games on the PC had a far better driving model, (as did Forza on the old xbox, although that was still pretty arcadey).

Iain Young

Out of interest, how many cars have you driven on track?

I've driven Imprezas (both my own sti and group-n rally cars), MGs, and formula fords on track, and I can quite categorically say that the handling of the cars in GT doesn't even come close to real life handling. You can do stuff in the game that just isn't possible in real life, and the lack of any form of tyre wear or damage modelling just pushes it even further into the arcade realm.

A good game it may be, (although I got bored with it within a week and now use the DFP solely for the PC and GTR) but realistic it aint

PeteBrant

I would agree that physics model and car handling is more true in GT. However, that is not the be all and end all.

Forza, and the Colin MacCrae games took onboard the fact that what is "real" is not necessaily what you want in a game. What feels right is much more important that what is right.

To make an analogy. In PES, a player can run the length of the pitch in around 6 seconds. Could this happen in real life? Of course not. But it feels right in the context of the game - it is real as far as the player is concerned.

The same applies to driving games, physically the cars in Forza might not be accurate to the real life counter part as in GT, but, they represent a degree of accuracy whilst maintaining a general feel of being how you expect the car to drive.

PGR is more arcadey, it is easy to perform, maintain and control powerslides that would be very difficult to do in GT. But that's fine, PGR never has been trying to compete with GT in the realism stakes.

The problem with GT, is that as various iterations have arrived, the game has become less a racer, and more a collect-em-up. The actual physical racing of the cars is secondary to unlocking and buying/modifying new ones.

Forza and PGR very definitely deliberately avoid being GT clones, they are games in thier own right, quite different to polophony digitals' title.

PeteBrant

You do get tyre wear in GT.

You dont in PGR, and the damage model in PGR is entirely redundant due to it having no effect on your car at all - It is entirely cosmetic.

Forza on the other hand strikes a balance between the likes of GTR and PGR - Realism with immediate controlability.

bioforger

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GTR/2 n Rburns rally are the only games with true realism imo.

PeteBrant