Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

ADSL with Monitored Burglar Alarm ??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08 January 2007, 09:00 AM
  #1  
Dark
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exclamation ADSL with Monitored Burglar Alarm ??

Anyone know if it's okay ?

Have bought a new house with a monitored burglar alarm hardwired to the telephone. How am I supposed to connect a microfilter when the ADSL is switched on ?

Cheers, Mark
Old 08 January 2007, 09:29 AM
  #2  
DemonDave
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
DemonDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Midlands - between notts and derby !
Posts: 4,997
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

depends on where it is hardwired to - if its an extension, it depends on whether it has been taken back to the master socket and either wired direct or via a plug, if its via a plug the the filter can go there. Otherwise it might be better to replace the master socket with a master socket and filter (NT5 faceplate) if the adsl router is near the master socket !

see here for better descriptions

ADSL-Filters.co.uk
Old 08 January 2007, 10:20 AM
  #3  
David_Wallis
Scooby Regular
 
David_Wallis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

its not 'redcare' style monitoring is it?
Old 08 January 2007, 12:41 PM
  #4  
Dark
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I don't think it's an active system like "redcare".

I think it just makes a phone call if the alarm is activated.

I guess worst case I can install ADSL and then get the alarm tested to see if there is any interference on the line and install a microfilter as required.

Mark
Old 08 January 2007, 08:10 PM
  #5  
shooter007
Scooby Regular
 
shooter007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: west yorks
Posts: 662
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

call the alarm company or maker some have filtered stu,s these are fitted inside the alarm panel on the line if you have an sssfp fitted (broadband face plate) you should be ok
Old 08 January 2007, 09:55 PM
  #6  
Dark
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The alarm box is next to the BT master socket, in the cupboard where I want to place my wireless broadband router.

So it seems in theory I can replace the faceplate on the master socket with a filtered version, plug in my router and not need microfilters for the alarm or any extension sockets. Great !!

Many thanks, Mark
Old 08 January 2007, 11:26 PM
  #7  
DemonDave
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
DemonDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Midlands - between notts and derby !
Posts: 4,997
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

just check on the bt box that the alarm company have wired into the extension side of the box

UK Telephone Wiring

see idc connectors for user wiring
Old 09 January 2007, 11:35 PM
  #8  
i8gtmf
Scooby Regular
 
i8gtmf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Derbyshire
Posts: 910
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Your alarm system will be more than happy on a broadband line, it's your broadband that won't work. We come across more and more of this in the Alarm industry
The alarm has to be hardwired into the phone socket otherwise your system will not comply with alarm regs if it's police linked.
The easiest fix we use it we fit a socket on the end of the phone line in the alarm panel, plug a filter into that and then plug into the filter for the alarm line. As it's all inside the control panel your ok.
If its a Redcare line none of this matters as Redcare is compatible with Broadband and you won't need any filters for the alarm.
Old 10 January 2007, 09:08 AM
  #9  
Dark
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Cheers for that ! Does that mean if left unfiltered the alarm will only crash the broadband when it tries to dial out ie. in an alarm condition ?

Thanks, Mark
Old 10 January 2007, 06:15 PM
  #10  
i8gtmf
Scooby Regular
 
i8gtmf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Derbyshire
Posts: 910
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not in all cases mate, In most cases your Broadband will just not work, your adsl modem will just sit flashing at you as it's unable to connect. We have had some cases where customers have had broadband fitted and everything works perfectly with no filters on the alarm or some just cause the Broadband to drop out when the alarm signals. But most if the alarm is left unfiltered will just stop your broadband from working.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Abx
Subaru
22
09 January 2016 05:42 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
Sam Witwicky
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
17
13 November 2015 10:49 AM
toyney83
General Technical
10
02 October 2015 08:38 PM
T.K
General Technical
10
02 October 2015 11:35 AM



Quick Reply: ADSL with Monitored Burglar Alarm ??



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:44 PM.