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Old 21 December 2006, 05:18 PM
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Default Laptop can't see my wireless network, any ideas?

I've just switched my laptop on but it can't see my wireless network although it can find others in range. I'm sitting about a foot from my wireless router

It was fine last time I used it about a week to two weeks ago. I've not knowingly changed anything and the PC wired internet connection through the wireless router is working fine.

Where should I start looking for a solution? Non techy answers please, I'm a numptie
Old 21 December 2006, 05:43 PM
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Try a reboot, sometimes works for me
Old 21 December 2006, 05:43 PM
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^ reboot router...
Old 21 December 2006, 05:45 PM
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Done that on both the lappy and router but no luck. The laptop can see other networks but not my own. I'm in the router now having a look but don't really know what any of it means

It's worked fine for over a year and a half so I can't understand why it suddenly won't work. Can the wireless bit just stop working?
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Sorry..... yeah the router
Old 21 December 2006, 05:49 PM
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check the obvious..

is the aeriel in tight?...

is wireless enabled?....

maybe reset WEP key on router and lappie ?
Old 21 December 2006, 05:55 PM
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The lappy can't even see my wireless network when I click on 'view available networks' but it can see my neighbours.

Aerial is tight and wireless is enabled

I really need to get on my network with the lappy as I'm going away in a day and need to update some stuff online
Old 21 December 2006, 06:00 PM
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Try disabling the security and go through the set up wizard on the router , both have worked for me in the past .
Old 21 December 2006, 06:02 PM
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Yeah guess I'll have to start from scratch again

My PDA can't see the see the network either so I guess it's screwed
Old 21 December 2006, 06:07 PM
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return the router to factory settings first before you reinstall...
Old 21 December 2006, 06:09 PM
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Thanks for your help chaps, I can't face sorting it all out right now, it's too late in the day and my head hurts just thinking about it. I hate PC problems
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that was bollocks, you don't reinstall routers...
Old 21 December 2006, 06:34 PM
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How am I supposed to fix it when you give me incorrect instructions?

It might be easiest if I just go and buy a new one after Christmas
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Originally Posted by scoobychick

It might be easiest if I just go and buy a new one after Christmas

and that, is why PC world have 1253,000 stores, nationwide.

fix it
Old 21 December 2006, 11:59 PM
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LOL, or pay some neighbourhood geek a tenner to fix it.
Old 22 December 2006, 06:35 AM
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On your router settings make sure the router is broadcasting SSID, because if its not, no wireless devises will be able to see the wireless network.
On nearly all routers there is this option.
Hop it helps.
Old 22 December 2006, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Boro
LOL, or pay some neighbourhood geek a tenner to fix it.
Or do what I did, get your sister to marry some neighbourhood geek and save yourself a tenner
Old 22 December 2006, 09:41 AM
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My sister married a copper, what use is that?

I'll check the SSID setting, if that's ok I think I'll start looking for a geek, I suppose this forum is as good a place to look as any
Old 22 December 2006, 09:52 AM
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Is it a Linksys?
Old 22 December 2006, 10:47 AM
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D-Link DSL-G604T
Old 22 December 2006, 01:36 PM
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I don't know how it works in Windows, but isn't there an option for you to enter the SSID/passcode manually from your wireless connection manager thingy, and see if it can connect that way? Otherwise it'd be impossible to join closed (non SSID broadcast) networks if you can only choose one it can 'see'.
Old 22 December 2006, 01:43 PM
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check the channel as well.
Old 22 December 2006, 01:46 PM
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It'll auto-hunt the channel, although if it's on the default channel (10 I think) along with the rest they can suffer interference.
Old 22 December 2006, 10:18 PM
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chances are the router is screwed. If you aint changed anything I'd check the network is still listed on the router if yes, buy a new one or send that one back
Old 22 December 2006, 10:54 PM
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We had this problem ages ago, solved it using a piece of software called netstumbler, to find out which channels all the other networks in the area are on. And then moved mine so it was 6 channels away from them; they had all left theirs on the default by the look of it.

I made sure all the settings are correct between router and laptop SSID`s, Mac codes, IP`s etc.

The only problem you might have is if it`s an intel pro wireless card built into centrino, it doesn`t seem to have the ption to use the european channel spacings. So if you are using channels 12 + 13 on the european settings on your router. the laptop won`t pick the network up at all. In that case the highest channel you can use is 11.

Also my netear router has the option to isolate it from talking to the other wireless routers. This did seem to help with the overall reliabilty of the network. Before I forced a reset it had been up for over 1500 hrs without a dropout.

Hope this helps

Jase
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Probably broken.

If you are right next to it you won't have any problems with channels, unless you were using a cordless phone on 2.4GHz right next to it at the time.

My linksys piece of junk overheats and resets itself. opened it up and the a heatsink wasnot even stuck on to the chip.

And now you need to put it in debug mode, logon via telnet and setup the bridge correctly between the wired and wireless interfaces using the command line.
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If your laptop is detecting other networks, it must be your router.

Sounds like it has died.

If you've reset it (insert a pencil into the reset button, then allow it chance to reboot, then switch off, then on again) and it still isn't detected by your laptop, then I suggest a trip to the shops in the sales is needed!

I had a D-Link DSL-G604T and guess what...it did exactly the same. I got about a year and a bit from it, then it died.
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Originally Posted by Tony_W
If your laptop is detecting other networks, it must be your router.

Sounds like it has died.

If you've reset it (insert a pencil into the reset button, then allow it chance to reboot, then switch off, then on again) and it still isn't detected by your laptop, then I suggest a trip to the shops in the sales is needed!

I had a D-Link DSL-G604T and guess what...it did exactly the same. I got about a year and a bit from it, then it died.
a reset would remove her wireless settings so of course it wouldnt show up after that
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best go to Faeces World and get a new un
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
a reset would remove her wireless settings so of course it wouldnt show up after that
except that it would default to broadcasting it's factory set SSID and on it's factory set channel, so you would see those



Edited to add: Assuming it's not knackered and is actually capable of braodcasting something that is


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