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Old 21 December 2006, 01:40 PM
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Question Sky Broadband, do i or don't i?

it would seem their LLC has arrived in the neighbourhood, question is, do i put my internet in the hands of Sky? i've read quitea few good things but alot of bad things about the service but at the end of the day, it's 16mb BB for a tenner (will only get 8-9mb by the time it gets to my house but that's twice as fast as i have now and 15 quid cheaper!)

anyone care to sway my decision?
Old 21 December 2006, 01:47 PM
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Download Speed: 10774 kbps (1346.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 629 kbps (78.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

That's with two other people in the house browsing and whatever else.

It's not as reliable as NTL, I sometimes have to click refresh a few times, never been down as such.

I know it's somehow capped, or perhaps it's the number of people now connected as I used to hit the full 22meg download speed.
Old 21 December 2006, 02:30 PM
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how far from the local exchange are you? im 1.8km as the crow flies

i've read a lot about the crap router you get free with it being half the problem, but you can hack it to get your username and password and then use your existing wireless router, i'm swaying to giving in to them but not till after Christmas
Old 21 December 2006, 03:11 PM
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I've signed up for Sky broadband, ordered it on the 9th Dec, then again on the 11th Dec after they cocked it up, they then promised the modem would be delivered before the line goes "live".

The line went "Live" yesterday (20th) and I'm still waiting for the modem to arrive Phoned them last night to find out what was happening and they have no record of the modem even being dispatched yet, so they have "activated" my account again....and again have been told "delivery within 5 days sir"......yeah right....we will see.

Not a good start!
Old 21 December 2006, 03:16 PM
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I've got it. Supplied router can be a bit flaky, but it is possible to use your own. Line speed and stability can be improved with a faceplate splitter like the adslnation one.

Last time I checked it was synced at 15.8mbit ( about 617m from the exchange as the crow flies )
Old 21 December 2006, 03:20 PM
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What router is it that is supplied?

Is it worth buying another one? What do people recommend and what sort of price am I looking at?
Old 21 December 2006, 03:29 PM
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the one supplied is a branded netgear. I used the hack to get the username and password and then set up my thomson speedtouch 585v6 with it and use that in conjuction with the dmt tool to set a stable snr ratio. Sky broadband is far better than adsl max as it gives more consistent results.

Jack, I wasnt aware Sky did 22mb thought it was 16mb max.

Flat4, the saving in itself is worthwhile, you will get a slightly higher sync speed on sky than with bt max adsl and it will be more consistent. I am 1.3km as the crow flies and sync at over 7mb, however to the exchange by road it is probably closer to 2km (crow flies goes over fields near me)
Old 21 December 2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
I used the hack to get the username and password
This may be a basic question, but I am new to all this (can you tell ) How do I do "the hack" ?
Old 21 December 2006, 03:56 PM
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there's a html page you can use to get all those details via url injection.

pm me an email address and I'll send it over.
Old 21 December 2006, 04:05 PM
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mine went without a hitch... I am on the free 2meg
Old 21 December 2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stevem2k
there's a html page you can use to get all those details via url injection.

pm me an email address and I'll send it over.
pm sent
Old 21 December 2006, 04:41 PM
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first week in Jan it is then
Old 21 December 2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
Jack, I wasnt aware Sky did 22mb thought it was 16mb max.
It used to be 22 as offered by Easynet, I think Sky took the decision to offer lowers speeds and less broken promises. Mine was/is a test account.
Old 21 December 2006, 08:35 PM
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Email is a real pain unless you use the POP settings and outlook or an alternative - the online portal really has problems at the moment so I wouldn't recommend using it for webmail. That said the actual connection itself seems very stable
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agree email can be difficult without a client - though they are promising to sort the portal out with a google/gmail tie up.

Only ever use my old gmail accounts these days anyway.

1.6MB/sec from easynews currently this evening geton !
Old 22 December 2006, 10:32 AM
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anyone using Xbox live via the sky supplied router (is it netgear wireless ?) I have my set-up how I like it now with no problems and changing allways makes me think I'm opening myself up to problems for the next few weeks.
Old 22 December 2006, 10:37 AM
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Nope, though the router is most stable in Auto108 mode - so wireless ch6 required .
Old 23 December 2006, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by stevem2k
there's a html page you can use to get all those details via url injection.

pm me an email address and I'll send it over.
can I have the info as well please
Old 23 December 2006, 09:10 AM
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Does the Sky broadband have to 'dial' for connection like AOL and some others using phonelines? I use NTL never had a problem and permanently connected which is what I like.
Old 23 December 2006, 09:41 AM
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I'm using Xbox live with the Sky router, works just fine, but as mentioned the connection does drop a lot more than NTL, at least once a day.
Old 23 December 2006, 11:57 AM
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i know there are issues with the sky router if you have UPnP enabled, this does tend to cause dropouts (info found on the unoffical sky users forum) I havent bothered with the sky router though as my stats were a lot worse than with the speedtouch
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Still not got my modem!
Old 03 January 2007, 12:01 PM
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Right....after numerous phone calls and umpteen different lies from various different customer services representatives I have FINALLY received my modem thingy....only took them a month!

So I unpack it all and get ready to use it.......

"Step 3 - Insert cd to install software" ......cd?......WHAT F**KING CD?!?!?!

Another phone call...."The disc will be with you in 3-5 Days" AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!

Complete bunch of incompetent to$$ers!

A friend of mine also received his modem....also minus the cd!
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you dont need the cd. Just hook the modem/router up and log into it via ethernet to get the security settings (assuming you are going to use wireless) I also got a security card with my router telling me what the security settings were so I could just change my settings on my wireless adapters
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
you dont need the cd. Just hook the modem/router up and log into it via ethernet to get the security settings (assuming you are going to use wireless) I also got a security card with my router telling me what the security settings were so I could just change my settings on my wireless adapters
I used the "key" to log on to the router and my laptop connected wirelessly no problems, it tells me it is connected, but I still can't seem to log on to the internet. Just comes up can't find server for any website I try...same with email.

Any ideas?
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can you ping the router from the laptop ?
Old 03 January 2007, 01:58 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that in Sky's latest TV ad for the broadband bundle they laughingly announce in the ad "broadband speeds of up to 16 mega BYTES"

Heard it last night, and had to rewind live TV to check out what I thought I'd heard.

Made me chuckle anyway....
Old 03 January 2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stevem2k
can you ping the router from the laptop ?
Sorry, technical/IT numpty here How do i ping it?

The icon in the bottom left of the screen says that I am connected and it appears on the network neighbourhood thing.

I figured I needed the cd for some sort of software update to allow access to the Sky Broadband server.
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start > run > cmd [return]

In the black box type

ping 192.168.0.1 [return]
Old 03 January 2007, 02:21 PM
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I am at work at the moment. Will try it when I get home.

What should happen when I do this?

Any ideas what i should do if it does or doesn't "ping"?


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