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Old 19 July 2006, 06:08 PM
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what are the pros and cons to this deal
is it thru the satellite its received?
im currently with telewest atm with unlimited usage
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Old 19 July 2006, 06:40 PM
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It's ADSL, comes down your telephone line, nothing to do with satellites. I tested the service a while back and it was very quick and reliable. 12 months free McAfee Internet Security as well.
Old 19 July 2006, 07:30 PM
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Just registered for this myself, I'm wilth Nildram at the moment. As part of the deal you also get a free router.
Old 19 July 2006, 08:07 PM
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Router's pretty good as well. Pre-configured for wireless security, can't be a bad thing.
Old 19 July 2006, 09:46 PM
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I don't get this, it was all over the news as being free to existing Sky customers. But I got the letter this morning, and theres a £17/mnth fee, so not exactly free is it

Edited to say, I've just seen the prices on sky, I know I should of read it before posting So the base level is free, not bad at all.

I wonder if you can sell the router on

I see there are no limits on the Max account, but subject to a FUP, I wonder what the details of that are Still pretty decent for £10 a month, looks like my current ISP will be getting the boot.

Further edited to say, that if your area doesn't fall into their network, then you can only get the connect account, which isn't so attractive due to the cap and the activation charge.

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will only be fitted FREE if you are a sky subscriber... uses 'netgear' routers.. and will only work via a BT line NOT CABLE !!
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Old 19 July 2006, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Router's pretty good as well. Pre-configured for wireless security, can't be a bad thing.

Is there any admin access to the router Jack ? ..
Old 19 July 2006, 10:12 PM
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Is there any admin access to the router Jack ? ..
If they are Netgear products then yes.
Old 19 July 2006, 10:57 PM
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i cant see anywhere about using a bt line!!!
all i can see is if you are a sky tv subscriber then you can get it


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will only be fitted FREE if you are a sky subscriber... uses 'netgear' routers.. and will only work via a BT line NOT CABLE !!
HTH
Old 19 July 2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
If they are Netgear products then yes.
I'm afraid not, but don't quote me though as things could have changed. It is a Netgear router, but there is no set-up required at all, the install disc just tells you what to plug in where and off you go, the wireless password is on the router. Could be restrictive for some.
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Originally Posted by stevem2k
Is there any admin access to the router Jack ? ..
I'd have to agree with Jack "Anti-Piracy Evangelist" Clark

Telwest use Netgear routers on some of their packages and you can't re=configure (or re-flash them!)

Solution is to swap the router they give you with your own configurable one. I've already got a netgear router so I should be ok.

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Originally Posted by 5cby
i cant see anywhere about using a bt line!!!
all i can see is if you are a sky tv subscriber then you can get it
wont work with a cable line they told us on the course ive just been on...




And its DEFFO a Netgear router.. I got my 'spare' at the end of the course
Old 20 July 2006, 08:19 AM
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Unfortunatley, on 24% coverage for Sky subscribers at the moment. Sky are trying to do somehting about this by snapping up other ISPs etc.

Looks a fairly decent deal - at least the mid and Max package do - especially if you already have SKY.

NTL/Telewest/Virgin as well as Vodafone etc will soon be coming to market so I expect a price war.
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Sky are not buying up other ISP's, they're investing millions in more Local Loop Unbundling, once their kit is in your exchange you're good to go. The news of this spend sent their share price tumbling, bad for investors, good for the man on the street.
Old 20 July 2006, 08:59 AM
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I got a letter yesterday and that said they hoped to have my exchange upgraded within 12 months. Seems that North Wilts is a bit of a telecoms backwater. No LLU that I can get, nor cable so stuck with plain old ADSL. Guess I had better register just to give Sky the idea that people here would like faster connections

Anyone know if you can get a fixed IP with Sky?
Old 20 July 2006, 09:41 AM
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If I can swap in my own router then it's a good deal ...tempting....

www.samknows.co.uk will tell you of your exchange is LLU for Easynet ( who sky bought for this service )
Old 20 July 2006, 10:14 AM
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Can't get it in Swindon either Pete, (in fact I can't get any form of ADSL). That's why I'm on 10mb cable...
Old 20 July 2006, 11:39 AM
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I'm on cable at the mo but this is very tempting....
Do BT charge to reconnect at the moment?
Old 20 July 2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Sky are not buying up other ISP's, they're investing millions in more Local Loop Unbundling, once their kit is in your exchange you're good to go. The news of this spend sent their share price tumbling, bad for investors, good for the man on the street.
They bought easynet - parent company of Ukonline to get LLU access. It's possible they could just expand Ukonline.

Wouldn't surprise me to see them buyother ISP's though.....
Old 20 July 2006, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jowl
They bought easynet - parent company of Ukonline to get LLU access. It's possible they could just expand Ukonline.

Wouldn't surprise me to see them buyother ISP's though.....
Who's for sale?
Old 21 July 2006, 08:26 AM
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The big one could be AOL UK
Old 21 July 2006, 10:27 AM
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AOL's possible but I don't think they've unbundled much, Bulldog/C&W on the other hand!!
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What happens if you don't use windows btw ?

I can live without the McAfee Internet Security
Old 21 July 2006, 11:20 AM
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Works great on my Mac and Virex is free as well
Old 21 July 2006, 06:50 PM
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Bit off-topic, but (wishful thinking) is changing ISP like changing mobile phone provider?

i.e. do you get to keep your email address (like transferring a phone number)?

I doubt it is, but that's one of the reasons I stay with BT; I don't want my email address to change...
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Originally Posted by jowl
The big one could be AOL UK
GOT IT!
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Originally Posted by stevem2k
What happens if you don't use windows btw ?

I can live without the McAfee Internet Security
works on Win 2000
Win XP and on OSX on Mac..
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Originally Posted by ru'
Bit off-topic, but (wishful thinking) is changing ISP like changing mobile phone provider?

i.e. do you get to keep your email address (like transferring a phone number)?

I doubt it is, but that's one of the reasons I stay with BT; I don't want my email address to change...
Basically you should be able to keep your addy due to the fact that Sky are in theory piggy-backing on BT lines
Old 21 July 2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ru'
Bit off-topic, but (wishful thinking) is changing ISP like changing mobile phone provider?

i.e. do you get to keep your email address (like transferring a phone number)?

I doubt it is, but that's one of the reasons I stay with BT; I don't want my email address to change...
If your e-mail address is issued by BT ISP..ie joe.bloggs@btinternet.com then you will probably lose it.

A good way to always keep the same e-mail address is to purchase a domain with e-mail forwarding.

In your case...

ru@ru.co.uk --> ru@btinternet.co.uk


if you change ISP, just change forwarding

ru@ru.co.uk --> ru@skyisp.com

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Yeah, that's what I thought, cheers for the reply.

Would've been good if I'd done that at the start really...


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