spectrum48k

Do I take it the CPU running at 72degC on one of our workstations is causing the Blue Screen Of Death ? The bluescreen is stating a page fault, but I thought I'd better check the BIOS and see what the CPU temps were:

CPU 72degC
System 52degC

Processor is just a little Athlon 2100XP and I noticed the box only has an exhaust fan on the side of the case (no inlet fan sucking in cool air)

Off to get a new CPU cooling kit and an inlet fan for the case.

lightning101

Even on a hot day it shouldn't get past the 40's so yes it will get even hotter under load and crash.

jpor

iTrader: (1)

Page fault normally means an issue with RAM or swap file on a disk.

spectrum48k

jpor, then again, I've never seen a BSOD diagnose the fault as "overheating" ;-)

do you think the "page fault" is just windows attempt at a guess when the system has overheated ?

jowl

72 is way to hot - especially for a Athlon 2100. I'd replace at least the thermal grease, maybe the whole heatsink/fan.

There are some tests for memory and hdd (visit manufactor site) or http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ has them all.

spectrum48k

cheers jowl

jpor

iTrader: (1)

But then again if BSOD messages made sense then there wouldn't be a need for Microsoft to produce a knowledgebase.

I'd say the RAM is malfunctioning due to the heat.

boxst

Hello

My computer has been hovering around 75c (Pentium 3ghz) with alarms going off all over the place.

I want air-conditioning in my home-office!

Steve

_Meridian_

iTrader: (1)

BSODs are nearly always a RAM problem, but since the system temp is 52oC, then it's a fair guess that the RAM is also overheating. So yes, you need more cooling. The CPU temp is worryingly high for one that's not overclocked, but I doubt it's the problem.


M

jowl

Lower the CPU temp and THe rest of the system will cool down.

the CPU temp IS a problem and should rectified first. It it's still warm in there, stick a case fan in.

spectrum48k

bought a temp controlled case fan from thermaltake and a zalman copper heatsink and fan from Zalman

Fitting tomorrow.

I'll report results

jowl

I reckon CPU temp around 20 degrees with that lot!

James Neill

iTrader: (1)

You're missing the fact that the on-chip cache accounts for a large chunk of memory access and at 72 degrees it may well be this that is affected rather than the RAM.

spectrum48k

Zalman temp-controlled cooling fan and copper heatsink added:
cpu temperature down from 72C to 42C @ 2900rpm

Akasa inlet fan added (thermaltake had missing parts):
system temp down to from 52C to 40C @ 1800rpm

NB: Case has existing side mounted exhaust fan
NB: CPU fan temp sensor will increase to 4800rpm if temp exceeds 55C

RussBoy

Blimey, I may try that myself then. I came into the forum today to post to ask what a safe temperature is because my PC is running 56 degrees with twin PSU's. However, I'm in Spain and the ambient air temperature in the office (downstairs of my house which is the coolest part) is 32 degrees - and it'll get hotter yet! Is there anything else I can do given I've already got the twins's? I am having some RAM issues BTW, though not yet (touch wood) BSOD.

Cheers,


Russ

spectrum48k

To be honest Russ, the figures I've now achieved are what they should've been all along.

You might want to look at water cooling to bring temps down further as 32C ambient seems pretty high.

www.overclockers.co.uk

_Meridian_

iTrader: (1)

True, but overheating of a CPU nearly always results in CTDs and lockups, with the occasional reboot - not BSODs. BSODs occasionally happen under those circumstances, but are not the primary mode of failure - lockups are.

M