DJ Dunk

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. . . open to see whats inside

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610

stevebt

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well if it has a built in removeable drive it wont be long before that is software modded

ScoobyDoo555

you bl00dy teaser!!!

Dan

Hanley

Dunk

I nearly fell off my chair then

mike1210

@ the power supply

Dream Weaver

Interesting

I note that the controllers come with std batteries, surely these wont last long? They should've included a controller docking station and rechargables.

DJ Dunk

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Sorry, it was a poor joke

DW - But then they wouldn't be able to sell you the Play 'n' Charge kit

The controller can use standard AA batteries or the rechargeable battery pack. The battery pack is recharged using the Play 'n' Charge kit which trickle charges whilst you play. I thought there was supposed to be a standalone charger too, but but can't seem to find one anywhere ?

Iain Young

It's about the same size as the one for my laptop, so not too bad!!!

But the bios, operatring system etc is all on chips inside the system itself. The hard drive is only used for data storage, (which is how it can work ithout a hard drive attached). With all the security measures they've put in place, it's looking like it will be a lot more tricky than the old xbox.

Good thing too. Now that they've included practically every media option you could think of, the only obvious reason for chipping the new box would be for illegal purposes (i.e. pirate games etc). Anything that can be done to stop that from happening is a plus in my book

Dream Weaver

Agree with Iain, much better for the console industry, and us, if people stop with the pirated games

I've always bought my games, you get more enjoyment from them then.

STi wanna Subaru

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I know mates with young kids and using back-ups has saved them loads of times with games. They are taken out and thrown on the carpet, sat on etc.

Iain Young

Perhaps they ought to teach their kids how to look after stuff properly then. If they don't make backups, and don't replace damaged discs (that are damaged due bad handling rather than an accident), then they'll soon learn to respect stuff.

I know several people with kids, both young and older, whos games are all still in pristene condition, despite being used a lot.

STi wanna Subaru

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thanks for that lesson super nanny...

I have CD's that are now pretty much useless due to scratches and that is with taking care of them. games are no different. They will pick up scratches with use.

Iain Young

I've still got pristine computer game cds from the original ps1 release. Come to think of it, I've still got pristine Sega MegaCD discs as well. I don't know what people do to them, but I've never had a cd scratch (audio or computer), and I've got hundreds of the things...

I just don't see the argument advocating computer piracy simply because kids don't know how to look after stuff properly.

STi wanna Subaru

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The friend I'm talking about buys the back-ups from the internet and uses them for his kids. He uses the original for Xbox Live. To me that just makes sense.

Dream Weaver

Is that not the same as me not wanting kids to puke in the back seat of a Scoob, so going and stealing one to use instead?

JackClark

I thought I'd read somewhere that the majority of games companies will replace damaged CD's. Wouldn't cost them that much and we all know they do OK. No doubt that was abused and stopped.

ScoobyDoo555

Codemasters replaced my CMR disc when it was faulty (damaged by me) - charged me about £5 IIRC

Don't mind that

Dan

STi wanna Subaru

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I wouldn't say that.

I copy my Cd's for use in my car. They end up scratched going in and out of the HU. My originals are kept at home. I don't see that as a problem nor do I with someboyd using a copy of a game they own.

Dream Weaver

Fine as long as they own the original, but you said your mate buys backups off the internet

Its personal choice, but I prefer to buy them brand new as I once tried backups on my PS1 when I was younger, and cos you can get so many games for £3 each or whatever the playable value of each went down.

ScoobyJawa

He could own the game but not the technology to back it up mate, hence buying it from the net............

Swen6

Are you on Drugs???, how do you get more enjoyment going to the shop and buying them?, i'm sure people get more enjoyment thinking i've just saved myself £35.
Plus games are available earlier and sometimes better, i've seen a hacked Pro Evo 4, someone went to the level of editing all the names, and kits to the origianls.

Dream Weaver

I personally do, as with backups you tend to buy maybe 5-10 games in one go and I just dont have the time to play that many, so prefer to buy a new game every other month and complete it all before buying another one.

Besides, being an IT developer i'd be pretty hacked off after working solidly for someone to just come along and steal my work without paying me.

Iain Young

Also, if everyone stole games like you are advocating, then nobody would write them any more (it wouldn't be financially worth it), so by doing this, you are not only putting people out of work, but also killing the games industry.

Like Dream Weaver, I'm in IT as well (I write computer software for a living), so this is a little close to home, and I know I certainly wouldn't want people stealing stuff I'd spent months / years writing.

J4CKO

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I cant be arsed with pirated stuff, you end up spending twenty quid on 5 games, 2 dont work, 1 involves serious arsing about and the other two are ok, might as well buy second hand originals of Ebay for a 5 to 10 quid and buy the occasional top end new release based on good reviews.

andymanSurrey

nice to see microsoft have included a nice floor heater for the winter period!!.that power supply is outragous!!