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Old 04 October 2005, 10:04 PM
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Just wondering, but on our work BBS there is an IP address that seems to regularly connect (as a guest). The WHOIS suggests that the source is Microsoft, but it is "the great entity itself" or just one of their subscribers to some service or ISP that they provide????

Lookup posted below (with the actual IP obscured).

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Code:
whois -h whois.arin.net 207.46.xxx.zzz

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# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-10-03 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
 
      OrgName:    	Microsoft Corp
      OrgID:    	MSFT
      Address:    	One Microsoft Way
      City:    	Redmond
      StateProv:    	WA
      PostalCode:    	98052
      Country:    	US
      NetRange:    	207.46.0.0 - 207.46.255.255
      CIDR:    	207.46.0.0/16
      NetName:    	MICROSOFT-GLOBAL-NET
      NetHandle:    	NET-207-46-0-0-1
      Parent:    	NET-207-0-0-0-0
      NetType:    	Direct Assignment
      NameServer:    	NS1.MSFT.NET
      NameServer:    	NS5.MSFT.NET
      NameServer:    	NS2.MSFT.NET
      NameServer:    	NS3.MSFT.NET
      NameServer:    	NS4.MSFT.NET
      RegDate:    	1997-03-31
      Updated:    	2004-12-09
      TechHandle:    	ZM39-ARIN
      TechName:    	Microsoft
      TechPhone:    	+1-425-882-8080
      TechEmail:    	noc@microsoft.com
      OrgAbuseHandle:    	HOTMA-ARIN
      OrgAbuseName:    	Hotmail Abuse
      OrgAbusePhone:    	+1-425-882-8080
      OrgAbuseEmail:    	abuse@hotmail.com
      OrgAbuseHandle:    	MSNAB-ARIN
      OrgAbuseName:    	MSN ABUSE
      OrgAbusePhone:    	+1-425-882-8080
      OrgAbuseEmail:    	abuse@msn.com
      OrgAbuseHandle:    	ABUSE231-ARIN
      OrgAbuseName:    	Abuse
      OrgAbusePhone:    	+1-425-882-8080
      OrgAbuseEmail:    	abuse@microsoft.com
      OrgNOCHandle:    	ZM23-ARIN
      OrgNOCName:    	Microsoft Corporation
      OrgNOCPhone:    	+1-425-882-8080
      OrgNOCEmail:    	noc@microsoft.com
      OrgTechHandle:    	MSFTP-ARIN
      OrgTechName:    	MSFT-POC
      OrgTechPhone:    	+1-425-882-8080
      OrgTechEmail:    	iprrms@microsoft.com
Old 04 October 2005, 11:36 PM
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that is a legit MS IP range... My guess is bored employee or trawling MS bot... Anyone who has a hotmail account should know what I mean as all email passing through hotmail is scanned and worked on by the many machines at MS...
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forseti,

Could be an MS bot, as we already have GoogleBots appearing in the logs.

Shame the IP range is sooo big to help identify any specifics. Any thoughts on how to "spot bots" (e.g. specific strings in text strings to match search engine lookups)??

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Old 05 October 2005, 12:32 AM
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try an nslookup on the Ip addres prehaps the DNS name may give you a clue
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Hi Boomer,

You could span the port and sniff some traffic for a while if the person or bot logs on or accesses the site regularly enough. Then you can baseline and profile the connection to see what they are doing. Then if you are really keen you could attempt a scan of the IP to see what OS/browser it is running and that will give you some idea either way...
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Originally Posted by unfeasablylargegonads
try an nslookup on the Ip addres prehaps the DNS name may give you a clue
ulg,

i'll give that a try next time (forgot to save the whole IP after obscuration - doh!).

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by forseti
Hi Boomer,

You could span the port and sniff some traffic for a while if the person or bot logs on or accesses the site regularly enough. Then you can baseline and profile the connection to see what they are doing. Then if you are really keen you could attempt a scan of the IP to see what OS/browser it is running and that will give you some idea either way...
forseti,

trubble is that our forum is hosted at an ISP, and we only have limited logs (e.g. what phpBB provides) - let alone sniffing ports (much better to drink )

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by boomer
ulg,

i'll give that a try next time (forgot to save the whole IP after obscuration - doh!).

Cheers,

mb
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It's probably microsoft's MSN search engine indexing your site.
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Originally Posted by unfeasablylargegonads
try an nslookup on the Ip addres prehaps the DNS name may give you a clue
ulg,

Managed to try out your suggestion and hey presto - "msnbot.msn.com"

They have been particularly active over the last few days, and yet we haven't seen any GoogleBots for a while.

Cheers,

mb
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