PS3 / XBox 2 - to debut on same day...
11 April 2005, 02:31 PM
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PS3 / XBox 2 - to debut on same day...
Monday 16th May apparently.
Both will have their world debuts at E3 on the same day - Sony first @ 3pm and Microsoft 3 hours later.
From what I've read so far it looks like Sony's will be the more powerful and if rumours are true about XBox 2 - Microsoft could have made to biggest gaming faux-pas ever (no HDD or backwards compatability - lets hope otherwise)
Both to have wireless controllers.
Anyone got any confirmed specs? I know Microsoft are using ATI for the graphics this time around (due to Sony hi-jacking nVidia) but this Cell stuff in the PS3 sounds too good to be true - between 8 and 13 (?) CPU's running at 4GHz?
Both will have their world debuts at E3 on the same day - Sony first @ 3pm and Microsoft 3 hours later.
From what I've read so far it looks like Sony's will be the more powerful and if rumours are true about XBox 2 - Microsoft could have made to biggest gaming faux-pas ever (no HDD or backwards compatability - lets hope otherwise)
Both to have wireless controllers.
Anyone got any confirmed specs? I know Microsoft are using ATI for the graphics this time around (due to Sony hi-jacking nVidia) but this Cell stuff in the PS3 sounds too good to be true - between 8 and 13 (?) CPU's running at 4GHz?
11 April 2005, 03:06 PM
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If that's true about the no HDD and no backward compatibility, they've made a grave mistake. I won’t be buying another Xbox, and I think a lot of other will think the same. The only reason I got one was because of the modifications you can do to them (e.g. bigger HDD and different dashboard).
Look like ill be buying a PS3.
Look like ill be buying a PS3.
11 April 2005, 03:10 PM
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Not seen any confirmed specs, but had heard that there was to be a HDD in the 'Xbox 360'. Apparently comes with a pre-installed specially enhanced version of Halo 2. Also suggested that larger HDD's available with preinstalled software.
Photos of a supposed wireless Xbox controller are doing the rounds today too, black & white buttons replaced with shoulder buttons.
Also talk of games being available for download earlier than shop releases, legally this time
Probably just talk though
Photos of a supposed wireless Xbox controller are doing the rounds today too, black & white buttons replaced with shoulder buttons.
Also talk of games being available for download earlier than shop releases, legally this time
Probably just talk though
11 April 2005, 03:13 PM
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This much is confirmed:
The future Xbox will deliver on the company's vision of the HD Era -- an era fueled by consumer demand for experiences that are always connected, always personalized and always high-definition -- through the amazing clarity of high-definition graphics, extraordinary benefits of constant connectedness and exceptional personalization abilities. To help make this a reality, Microsoft has assembled some of the most powerful publishers to drive the industry into the high-definition gaming revolution. Together, these publishers have sold more than half a billion copies of current-generation Xbox console video games worldwide and represent approximately 70 percent of all current-generation console games sold in 2004.*
"The key to bringing the vision for the HD Era of gaming to life is our partners: world-class publishers and developers that have molded and shaped the history of interactive entertainment for tens of millions of gamers worldwide," said Peter Moore, corporate vice president of Xbox global content and marketing at Microsoft. "This stellar lineup of publishers and developers is poised to deliver games experiences our customers only dreamed were possible, and is ultimately committed to elevating video games to be the No. 1 form of entertainment."
Publishing heavyweights such as 2KGames, Activision Inc., Atari Inc., Bandai Co. Ltd., Bethesda Softworks LLC, Buena Vista Games Inc., Capcom Co. Ltd., Codemasters Software Company Ltd., Eidos Inc., Electronic Arts Inc., FromSoftware Inc., InterServ International, KOEI Co. Ltd., Konami Corp., LucasArts, Majesco Entertainment, Midway Games Inc., Namco Ltd., Phantagram Co. Ltd., Rockstar Games, SCi Games Ltd., SEGA, Tecmo Ltd., THQ Inc., TWP Corp., Ubisoft Entertainment, Vivendi Universal Games Inc. and Webzen Inc. have committed their support for Microsoft's innovative vision for the future of high-definition gaming.
These premier publishers join Microsoft Game Studios, whose stable of game developers will bring exclusive content to the next-generation Xbox platform. These developers include BioWare Corp., Bizarre Creations Ltd., Bungie Studios, Epic Games Inc., FASA Studio, Lionhead Studios Ltd., Rare Ltd., as well as newcomers Yoshiki Okamoto's Game Republic Inc., Hironobu Sakaguchi's Mistwalker and Tetsuya Mizuguchi's Q Entertainment Inc.
The next-generation Xbox titles will provide exhilarating entertainment experiences that will drive the HD Era. Gamers can expect technological advancements such as multichannel audio fidelity that will plunge them into a world so realistic, even the faintest enemy footsteps can be heard. These advancements will be fueled by richer online communication and by an abundance of on-demand content delivered by the Microsoft® Xbox Live (TM) service.
In addition, Microsoft is fully committed to this generation, and gamers can expect an amazing pipeline of titles into 2007. This year alone, Xbox publishers and developers will deliver more than 200 games to the platform. Since its launch, Xbox has sold 20 million consoles worldwide, and is expected to sell millions more.
This unified show of commitment from the leaders of the publishing industry underlines their belief in the Xbox vision of how hardware, software and services can be fused to power next-generation gaming and entertainment experiences.
Got to have both really
The future Xbox will deliver on the company's vision of the HD Era -- an era fueled by consumer demand for experiences that are always connected, always personalized and always high-definition -- through the amazing clarity of high-definition graphics, extraordinary benefits of constant connectedness and exceptional personalization abilities. To help make this a reality, Microsoft has assembled some of the most powerful publishers to drive the industry into the high-definition gaming revolution. Together, these publishers have sold more than half a billion copies of current-generation Xbox console video games worldwide and represent approximately 70 percent of all current-generation console games sold in 2004.*
"The key to bringing the vision for the HD Era of gaming to life is our partners: world-class publishers and developers that have molded and shaped the history of interactive entertainment for tens of millions of gamers worldwide," said Peter Moore, corporate vice president of Xbox global content and marketing at Microsoft. "This stellar lineup of publishers and developers is poised to deliver games experiences our customers only dreamed were possible, and is ultimately committed to elevating video games to be the No. 1 form of entertainment."
Publishing heavyweights such as 2KGames, Activision Inc., Atari Inc., Bandai Co. Ltd., Bethesda Softworks LLC, Buena Vista Games Inc., Capcom Co. Ltd., Codemasters Software Company Ltd., Eidos Inc., Electronic Arts Inc., FromSoftware Inc., InterServ International, KOEI Co. Ltd., Konami Corp., LucasArts, Majesco Entertainment, Midway Games Inc., Namco Ltd., Phantagram Co. Ltd., Rockstar Games, SCi Games Ltd., SEGA, Tecmo Ltd., THQ Inc., TWP Corp., Ubisoft Entertainment, Vivendi Universal Games Inc. and Webzen Inc. have committed their support for Microsoft's innovative vision for the future of high-definition gaming.
These premier publishers join Microsoft Game Studios, whose stable of game developers will bring exclusive content to the next-generation Xbox platform. These developers include BioWare Corp., Bizarre Creations Ltd., Bungie Studios, Epic Games Inc., FASA Studio, Lionhead Studios Ltd., Rare Ltd., as well as newcomers Yoshiki Okamoto's Game Republic Inc., Hironobu Sakaguchi's Mistwalker and Tetsuya Mizuguchi's Q Entertainment Inc.
The next-generation Xbox titles will provide exhilarating entertainment experiences that will drive the HD Era. Gamers can expect technological advancements such as multichannel audio fidelity that will plunge them into a world so realistic, even the faintest enemy footsteps can be heard. These advancements will be fueled by richer online communication and by an abundance of on-demand content delivered by the Microsoft® Xbox Live (TM) service.
In addition, Microsoft is fully committed to this generation, and gamers can expect an amazing pipeline of titles into 2007. This year alone, Xbox publishers and developers will deliver more than 200 games to the platform. Since its launch, Xbox has sold 20 million consoles worldwide, and is expected to sell millions more.
This unified show of commitment from the leaders of the publishing industry underlines their belief in the Xbox vision of how hardware, software and services can be fused to power next-generation gaming and entertainment experiences.
Got to have both really
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11 April 2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
Monday 16th May apparently.
Both will have their world debuts at E3 on the same day - Sony first @ 3pm and Microsoft 3 hours later.
Both will have their world debuts at E3 on the same day - Sony first @ 3pm and Microsoft 3 hours later.
Xbox 2 will have 2 initial versions I believe, one with hd one without, and then bigger hd versions later.
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11 April 2005, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim-Grove
If that's true about the no HDD and no backward compatibility, they've made a grave mistake. I won’t be buying another Xbox, and I think a lot of other will think the same. The only reason I got one was because of the modifications you can do to them (e.g. bigger HDD and different dashboard).
Look like ill be buying a PS3.
Look like ill be buying a PS3.
11 April 2005, 06:45 PM
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Never understood the backward compatibility thing. If you've got a nice new machine, why would you want to play old games on it? Surely if you want to do that you could just stick with the old one...
11 April 2005, 06:49 PM
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Its a valid point. How many PS1 games do you play on the PS2 ? I play a grand total of . . . none. Usually theres a newer, improved version on the next console making it redundant.
11 April 2005, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Backward compatibilty is pretty pointless surely? If that is the case you will have a Xbox already and once the new games are available not many people will want to play the older games anyway. I'm sure it will have a Hard Drive but currently the PS2 doesn't and from the sounds the PS3 wont either... so why would the PS3 be your choice without seeing either?
And if they have got a HDD, good. I was only going on the available information in the first post. The fact that the Xbox had a HDD and could be upgraded and used as a media centre was the only thing that swayed me from the PS2.
11 April 2005, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Its a valid point. How many PS1 games do you play on the PS2 ? I play a grand total of . . . none. Usually theres a newer, improved version on the next console making it redundant.
err, as a daddy - it's a big deal for me... ps 1 games still get played on our ps2 'cos , well they're fun... and paid for already....
my little fellas don't get a new console AND 50 brand new games of the same vein but rehased for the new games console all at the same time... building a games collection takes me time cos it costs a fortune. Simple fact. So they get 1 maybe 2 to begin with and they use the old games. There's nowt wrong wi that.
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11 April 2005, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim-Grove
The fact that the Xbox had a HDD and could be upgraded and used as a media centre was the only thing that swayed me from the PS2.
All of MS's activity in 'media centre' PC stuff etc has been leading to this.
But then again, so is the PS3. Right down to the core processor, which has been designed from day 1 to be massively networkable etc. and used across a wide variety of platforms from consoles to DVD / PVR systems, TV's and mobile phones.
The future is here my friends, and boy does it look good!
11 April 2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey Ace
err, as a daddy - it's a big deal for me... ps 1 games still get played on our ps2 'cos , well they're fun... and paid for already....
my little fellas don't get a new console AND 50 brand new games of the same vein but rehased for the new games console all at the same time... building a games collection takes me time cos it costs a fortune. Simple fact. So they get 1 maybe 2 to begin with and they use the old games. There's nowt wrong wi that.
Mikey
my little fellas don't get a new console AND 50 brand new games of the same vein but rehased for the new games console all at the same time... building a games collection takes me time cos it costs a fortune. Simple fact. So they get 1 maybe 2 to begin with and they use the old games. There's nowt wrong wi that.
Mikey
11 April 2005, 10:16 PM
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Backward compatibilty.....pah. 20 PS1 games and not one has EVER been in my PS2.
I'm a sucker I'll buy both the new Xbox and PS3 because I'm a Gamer and there will be stand out games on both systems.
The best console doesn't mean best sales. We all know the Xbox is the better setup but the masses go for the PS2
I'm a sucker I'll buy both the new Xbox and PS3 because I'm a Gamer and there will be stand out games on both systems.
The best console doesn't mean best sales. We all know the Xbox is the better setup but the masses go for the PS2
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I still prefer my PS2 over my xbox. Without doubt the xbox has the better graphics by a mile but for me the playability of ps2 games is so much more enjoyable than xbox. For example if someone says you have a choice between PGR2 or GT4, well PGR2 has amazing graphics compared to GT4 but whats more realistic/enjoyable to play? GT4 every time. Obviously if games are available on both formats then I get it for the xbox like Pro Evo Soccer. My collection for PS2 will always be bigger than the xbox though and for all of the above reasons I think I would naturally have to plump for the PS3 over the xbox2 when they get released, especially as one shouldn't be noticeably different to the other on graphics this time.
12 April 2005, 09:51 AM
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I've got both, and have to say I enjoy playing on the xbox more than the ps2. Better gfx means that for multi-format games I always get the xbox version, and there are very few ps2 only games worth getting imo.
Played GT4 for a while now, and although I'm enjoying it, there are many things which annoy me and which I think are done better in PGR2 (menu systems, ai of the computer controlled cars etc). Not bad, but not the killer game I was hoping for...
Played GT4 for a while now, and although I'm enjoying it, there are many things which annoy me and which I think are done better in PGR2 (menu systems, ai of the computer controlled cars etc). Not bad, but not the killer game I was hoping for...
12 April 2005, 10:13 AM
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I sold my PS1 years ago but kept a load of games like the early Tomb Raider's as they were brilliant compared to that Angel Of Darkness that came out on PS2.
If MS do release a version of XBox 2 without a HDD - I don't think many people would buy it unless it had the capability to be upgraded later. Non - backwards compatibility is a massive mistake IMHO.
Wireless controllers is a good idea but I'd be paranoid about losing the "signal" at a crucial moment...
If MS do release a version of XBox 2 without a HDD - I don't think many people would buy it unless it had the capability to be upgraded later. Non - backwards compatibility is a massive mistake IMHO.
Wireless controllers is a good idea but I'd be paranoid about losing the "signal" at a crucial moment...
12 April 2005, 10:42 AM
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Still don't see why. If I want to play my old games, I'll just keep my old xbox. Don't see the point of spending loads of dosh on a new system and then playing old inferior games on it when there are probably better sequels available on the new platform.
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